A manifesto for ⁂ as a symbol for the fediverse
https://symbol.fediverse.info/

@FediverseSymbol Nice symbol. Do you also have a proposal to replace the term Fediverse? I know many people, me included, who don't want to or cannot use it as a term in political debates, myself included.

Social Web was once one proposal, Open Socials is another. Maybe you've heard of other alternative naming that is more accessible in its name does not put the effort into a niche?

@yala So we're supposed to rename something that already has a name because of some unspecified objection?

@tomw I don't feel a generic rejection needs any justification. As a first, I just don't like the term.

My reasons for that can be debatable, but not the sentiment.

@yala I don't like the name "pineapple", shall we rename those too?

@tomw @yala

Apples of Pine

@FediverseSymbol I feel like the colors in the default logo are important. For me it represent different instances with different purposes. Mastodon isn't just a cluster of servers talking to each other, it's the people using it - which is represented by colors nicely right now.

@prz In our idea the color adapts to the text color around it, or can be turned into any relevant color fitting the use. However, when making graphics out of it, it’s definitely possible to bring back more colors for esthetics and extra meaning. See this proposal for instance: https://bcn.fedi.cat/objects/4c635366-293d-4a86-9c1c-215c6f2c732f

@FediverseSymbol this is unconvincing:

"We also don’t believe that a large corporation that is joining in as late should be the one defining the iconography for the fediverse."

Who are *you*, though? If your argument is ad hominem, show your names and your bona fides. Why should anyone care what you believe?

And if you're proposing a symbol after Threads, isn't that even later?

@FediverseSymbol @prz and what would you do about it being so disconnected? Fedi is VERY interconnected and the current logo shows *both* diversity and interconnectivity just fine...

@BeAware@social.beaware.live @FediverseSymbol@typo.social @prz@hachyderm.io Yes but when you do the icon smaller or use black and white colors the logo ​:fediverse:​ doesn't work well, but with this new proposition ⁂ that doesn't happen you can use of this way when you use it small but when it's bigger you can use various colors: https://bcn.fedi.cat/notice/AbanPjCk9jA2xHv9EG

@mester @prz @FediverseSymbol :fediverse: looks fine to me...🤨

And you can only change the color when using it as an image? Isn't that one of the "reasons" for wanting to change the logo in the first place? Cause you don't need an image?

At this point it seems like we're wanting to change somefor the sake of changing, rather than changing it for something better...it's very weird.

@BeAware@social.beaware.live @prz@hachyderm.io @FediverseSymbol@typo.social The thing that I say it's that the new logo can used in an image and there's a svg version of it because of that one can change the colors you only need to see the link that I put in the previous comment, when it's small or you don't need colors you can use perfectly but when you put in black-white color scale it doesn't see well and the problem when you want to use a small icon, this ​:fediverse:​ doesn't serve that is a reality and if you read the manifesto of @FediverseSymbol@typo.social you can see that is logical the things that they say

@mester @prz @FediverseSymbol

The Fedi logo shouldn't be black and white, therefore nobody should ever use it that way. Colors show diversity. As for an SVG, it's here https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fediverse_logo_proposal.svg

we're going in circles.

I'm just gonna mute it and be on with my business as nobody seems to want to discuss it in good faith.

Very unconvincing argument and seems like they just want to change it because they can say they changed something. That's not a good reason.

Have a good day.