#Bluesky doesn't let you edit posts or upload video.
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beaware@social.beaware.livereplied to kendricklmao8@hachyderm.io last edited by
@kendricklmao8 well...depends on your definition of "same server". Its not as straight forward as Fediverse in that regard.
Here's a pretty long winded, detailed explanation of my understanding of how BlueSky is doing things if you're interested.
BeAware :fediverse: (@BeAware@social.beaware.live)
@Blaze@feddit.org Long winded, nuanced answer, ready your eyeballs: It's a bit complicated, but since we're on Fediverse and at least somewhat familiar with how things work here, I'll try to explain with that comparison in mind. On Fediverse, instances are in control of the user data directly. To "migrate" your account, you'd be switching instances and admins entirely. BlueSky splits things up quite a bit more. There, you can host your own "PDS" or Personal Data Server. That hosts your account and post info only. Then, there's the "AppView". In comparison to Fediverse, these are like Lemmy, Mastodon, Mbin, etc. Right now, there's VERY few Appviews to choose from. Then, there's the "relay". Which to Fediverse, the only thing similar is also relays, but they work differently. On BlueSky, they relay every post and interactions of all the PDS data that connect to AppViews. I do not think there's a choice on *what* is relayed, just a huge firehose. That being said, they're not optional like Fediverse. To complete the network, relays are required on ATProto and apparently could be expensive to host, so right now, it appears the only relay is hosted by BlueSky the company. Which makes things slightly centralized. Now, that we have those definitions out of the way, this is where things get a bit muddy and a bit of purposeful corporate created confusion for purpose of selfishness is quite apparent. Right now, there's very few AppViews. The ones I'm aware of are, BlueSky itself, Whitewind, and Frontpage.xyz. The confusion happens because BlueSky, the company, doesn't separate the fact that accounts hosted on self-hosted PDS, aren't technically Bluesky accounts, they're ATproto accounts. Everywhere you look to login, it says "login using your BlueSky account". I can only assume they're doing this on purpose so that anyone who tries to make an Appview, host a PDS, AND a relay, can't have their own "identity" like different instances and platforms have here on Fedi. That will confuse people and make them think *everything* is just hosted by BlueSky the company. However, as we've now established, there's definitely a separation of "Bluesky" the company, "BlueSky" the AppView that you can login to using your "BlueSky" account, which doesnt technically have to be hosted by anything related to BlueSky. I hope this all makes sense and you can tell that *technically* things are decentralized for the most part. It's just that BlueSky is purposefully muddying their own definitions of things so that anyone that tries to build on ATproto, has a hard time making themselves known as *not* bluesky due to the way they conflate all these definitions. Sorry for the huge post and hope it makes sense in some way. Thanks for reading.😁👍 @fediverse@lemmy.world
BeAware (social.beaware.live)
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kendricklmao8@hachyderm.ioreplied to beaware@social.beaware.live last edited by
@BeAware that was me being problematic ha. I don't fully understand the differences in the protocols. I kinda do but not really
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beaware@social.beaware.livereplied to kendricklmao8@hachyderm.io last edited by
@kendricklmao8 haha. Well If you understand Fediverse, I try to explain BlueSky with that comparison in mind.️
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kendricklmao8@hachyderm.ioreplied to beaware@social.beaware.live last edited by
@BeAware infact i need your help with something. One sec
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kendricklmao8@hachyderm.ioreplied to kendricklmao8@hachyderm.io last edited by
@BeAware ok. Maybe you can help better with this. Bluesky is still very new to me
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beaware@social.beaware.livereplied to kendricklmao8@hachyderm.io last edited by
@kendricklmao8 well this is gonna be the easiest question to answer...
They wanted to make a version of a federated protocol that they can control specifically. It's a corporate profit move.
They don't want to use anything they can't control.
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kendricklmao8@hachyderm.ioreplied to beaware@social.beaware.live last edited by
@BeAware so there is no easier or better way at the moment than using that bridge? I made a BS account out of curiosity and so many ex Twitter ppl i used to talk to are on there
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beaware@social.beaware.livereplied to kendricklmao8@hachyderm.io last edited by
@kendricklmao8 no, bridge is the only way. You can try to convince them to use the bridge. Other than that, BlueSky won't be naturally federating with AP. At least not anytime soon.
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kendricklmao8@hachyderm.ioreplied to beaware@social.beaware.live last edited by
@BeAware thanks. Hopefully a better solution coming soon
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beaware@social.beaware.livereplied to kendricklmao8@hachyderm.io last edited by
@kendricklmao8 please don't hold your breath on that, you'll probably die of suffocation.