So is telegram actually E2EE or isn't it??🤨

I've seen *loads* of people claim that employees can access group chats and 1-on-1 chats along with having access to a lot of personal customer data.

However, when googled, it definitely says it's encrypted and can't be accessed and people today are acting as that is the case as well...

Where's the disconnect?

#Telegram #E2EE #Encryption #Privacy

@BeAware IIRC chats are not encrypted by default and are only E2EE if you enter a secret chat with someone.

@ThunderComplex so people are confused or misrepresenting the truth, I see.

Thanks for the info.

@BeAware Its not encrypted unless you create a "Private chat" which has terrible UX and most of the users prefer unencrypted chats. So yes, enybody who has access to server can read your messages. Furthermore government and other third parties can and does read messages of certain individuals. So stay away from telegram.

Group chats are never encrypted. Telegram can always read them.

One on one chats are unencrypted by default. Telegram can always read them.

One on one “secret chats” are advertised to be end to end encrypted. Telegram may or may not be able to read them.

@su yeah, I have for *awhile* now, but just thought I should get clarification because people seem confused.

Sure, the CEO shouldn't be arrested for what other people use the platform for...but they're also acting like people use it for privacy...which is very concerning...

@BeAware Nothing is private. Nothing at all.

@yabozdar signal is *quite* private.

All they have is account creation date and last date of login.

And your phone number

@npub16uy5j32385q8925795cqce0m5vmtuag77c8wewls67jgw9tp6sdq73frqc sure, but the feds have that already, if that's what I'm worried about...‍️