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  • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

    For good reason. https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core, which https://nlnet.nl/project/Kbin/ points to as official, has not been updated in quite some time, and while https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list used to show one last straggler, it now is entirely empty with zero instances that are advertising themselves as running that software. It is well and truly dead.

    Mbin carries onwards, but with only <1k active users world-wide one wonders for how much longer.

    PieFed's flagship instance alone has >2k active users, and its second-largest instance another thousand. PieFed.social is now the 2nd largest instance reported on that Fediverse Explorer site.

    Of course, nothing else comes anywhere even remotely close to the size of Lemmy.World, which is >5x larger and has 40% of all Lemmy active users (totally independently of the same admins' PieFed version, which is the #3 PieFed instance).

    So when one falls (Kbin), two more rises to take its place (Mbin & PieFed, plus also nodeBB, flarum perhaps one day, and obviously Mastodon, Friendica, and others across the Fediverse as well:-) - this bodes well for the strength of the Threadiverse to carry on!!?:-P

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    Fediverse. Threads is only that guy that goes to a party because there's free food and drink.

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    • bufalo1973@piefed.socialB bufalo1973@piefed.social

      Fediverse. Threads is only that guy that goes to a party because there's free food and drink.

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      We are stuck with "Threadiverse" as the least worst alternative for a word that means the subset of the Fediverse that is not microblogging and instead of that user-centric sharing offers topic-based, threaded, forum-style conversations.

      Thankfully, it predates that horrid experiment in yet another failure, and also most people choose it (over e.g. "Forumverse"), including several high-profile ones such as the creators of Mbin and nodeBB and our beloved Ada that have used it for many years and now do not want to switch.

      But mainly it seems for lack of anything better to call it? "The Verse" has a nice ring to it, but lacks specificity. "Lemmy + PieFed + Mbin + nodeBB + maybe flarum or is Sublinks now dead also like Kbin, but not Mastodon, Pixelfed, Friendica, Loops, etc." is way too long and keeps changing, as too does the method of access, through Voyager, Thunder, Summit, Blorp, Interstellar, etc. as all those work with at least two instance software types.

      The Verse

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      • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

        For good reason. https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core, which https://nlnet.nl/project/Kbin/ points to as official, has not been updated in quite some time, and while https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list used to show one last straggler, it now is entirely empty with zero instances that are advertising themselves as running that software. It is well and truly dead.

        Mbin carries onwards, but with only <1k active users world-wide one wonders for how much longer.

        PieFed's flagship instance alone has >2k active users, and its second-largest instance another thousand. PieFed.social is now the 2nd largest instance reported on that Fediverse Explorer site.

        Of course, nothing else comes anywhere even remotely close to the size of Lemmy.World, which is >5x larger and has 40% of all Lemmy active users (totally independently of the same admins' PieFed version, which is the #3 PieFed instance).

        So when one falls (Kbin), two more rises to take its place (Mbin & PieFed, plus also nodeBB, flarum perhaps one day, and obviously Mastodon, Friendica, and others across the Fediverse as well:-) - this bodes well for the strength of the Threadiverse to carry on!!?:-P

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        Mbin carries onwards, but with only <1k active users world-wide one wonders for how much longer.

        I think you're failing to see the potential. We promoted Lemmy for a while, now for novelty we're promoting Piefed. Once that gets played out, we can promote Mbin. After that, we can cycle back to Lemmy and so on ad infinitum!

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        • S sergio@piefed.social

          Mbin carries onwards, but with only <1k active users world-wide one wonders for how much longer.

          I think you're failing to see the potential. We promoted Lemmy for a while, now for novelty we're promoting Piefed. Once that gets played out, we can promote Mbin. After that, we can cycle back to Lemmy and so on ad infinitum!

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          True... but there is also nodeBB, flarum, there used to be Kbin, at one point there was going to be Sublinks (flarum is similar, except it definitely will exist, but maybe not be federated so quickly), and so on. There is likewise Mastodon, Friendica, Pixelfed, Loops, and so many other implementations of the ActivityPub Protocol - and while "Fediverse" conjures up connotations of Mastodon as its flagship hence microblogging, that experience does not seem to describe our shit- and meme- posting spaces here.

          And that doesn't begin to get into the variety of methods of access, like will a Voyager user care if they are connecting to an underlying Lemmy or PieFed (or perhaps in the future Mbin or nodeBB or something else)? Or Thunder, Blorp, Interstellar, Summit, etc.?

          So it might be awhile before we can reenter the cycle again, especially if new members keep joining even as we try! πŸ˜„

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          • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

            We are stuck with "Threadiverse" as the least worst alternative for a word that means the subset of the Fediverse that is not microblogging and instead of that user-centric sharing offers topic-based, threaded, forum-style conversations.

            Thankfully, it predates that horrid experiment in yet another failure, and also most people choose it (over e.g. "Forumverse"), including several high-profile ones such as the creators of Mbin and nodeBB and our beloved Ada that have used it for many years and now do not want to switch.

            But mainly it seems for lack of anything better to call it? "The Verse" has a nice ring to it, but lacks specificity. "Lemmy + PieFed + Mbin + nodeBB + maybe flarum or is Sublinks now dead also like Kbin, but not Mastodon, Pixelfed, Friendica, Loops, etc." is way too long and keeps changing, as too does the method of access, through Voyager, Thunder, Summit, Blorp, Interstellar, etc. as all those work with at least two instance software types.

            The Verse

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            I've seen @irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com use "Boardnet" the other day, maybe it can be an alternative?

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            • flamingos@feddit.ukF flamingos@feddit.uk

              This is not the place to start flamewars between Lemmy, Mbin and Piefed.

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              (we can still make fun of the og nodebb folks)

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              • sga@piefed.socialS sga@piefed.social

                (we can still make fun of the og nodebb folks)

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                Of course, if they didn't want that they wouldn't call their software nod ebb.

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                • flamingos@feddit.ukF flamingos@feddit.uk

                  This is not the place to start flamewars between Lemmy, Mbin and Piefed.

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                  Can we start cold wars?

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                  • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                    We are stuck with "Threadiverse" as the least worst alternative for a word that means the subset of the Fediverse that is not microblogging and instead of that user-centric sharing offers topic-based, threaded, forum-style conversations.

                    Thankfully, it predates that horrid experiment in yet another failure, and also most people choose it (over e.g. "Forumverse"), including several high-profile ones such as the creators of Mbin and nodeBB and our beloved Ada that have used it for many years and now do not want to switch.

                    But mainly it seems for lack of anything better to call it? "The Verse" has a nice ring to it, but lacks specificity. "Lemmy + PieFed + Mbin + nodeBB + maybe flarum or is Sublinks now dead also like Kbin, but not Mastodon, Pixelfed, Friendica, Loops, etc." is way too long and keeps changing, as too does the method of access, through Voyager, Thunder, Summit, Blorp, Interstellar, etc. as all those work with at least two instance software types.

                    The Verse

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                    No we aren't and you don't need to preemptively comply when you're not even on Thread

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                    • zoomboingding@lemmy.worldZ zoomboingding@lemmy.world

                      Can we start cold wars?

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                      Only cold brews allowed

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                      • zoomboingding@lemmy.worldZ zoomboingding@lemmy.world

                        Can we start cold wars?

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                        Space race to the moon?

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                        • squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyiS squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi

                          Bookwyrm the PieFed instance or Bookwyrm the software?

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                          Bookwyrm the PieFed instance

                          I can't believe they dare to do that. The fediverse is such a chaotic space.

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                          • bufalo1973@piefed.socialB bufalo1973@piefed.social

                            Fediverse. Threads is only that guy that goes to a party because there's free food and drink.

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                            I love the term threadiverse and twittoverse to refer to different galaxie of software within the bigger federated universe.

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                            • blaze@piefed.zipB blaze@piefed.zip

                              I've seen @irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com use "Boardnet" the other day, maybe it can be an alternative?

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                              I like threadiverse better. Why should we change just because Meta decided to stole our vocabulary? They also called whatever function within their app "Loop" just when the promesse of a fedi-alternative to TikTok was started to make noise within our small groups.

                              Edit : there/their

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                                No we aren't and you don't need to preemptively comply when you're not even on Thread

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                                Correct: "we" can do whatever "we" like. In the poll I mentioned, many people indicated a reluctance to use "Threadiverse", but people indicated an even much STRONGER preference to use it. I guess I've grown accustomed to it, and never really cared much to begin with, so long as we picked something to call the non-microblogging portion of the Fediverse (though I liked Forumverse, or something without -Verse, or whatever we want).

                                Make another poll, or perhaps a meme in this community, or use whatever format you want, and offer up your own suggestions? I look forward to see what you come up with!? πŸ˜„

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                                • pseudo@jlai.luP pseudo@jlai.lu

                                  I like threadiverse better. Why should we change just because Meta decided to stole our vocabulary? They also called whatever function within their app "Loop" just when the promesse of a fedi-alternative to TikTok was started to make noise within our small groups.

                                  Edit : there/their

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                                  img

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                                  • blaze@piefed.zipB blaze@piefed.zip

                                    I've seen @irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com use "Boardnet" the other day, maybe it can be an alternative?

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                                    People have offered so many suggestions.

                                    In the PieFed poll, the breakdown was:

                                    • 36% Threadiverse
                                    • 27% (The) Verse
                                    • 18% Forumverse
                                    • 9% Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed
                                    • 9% Lemmyverse

                                    But there was only 11 votes total (this was prior to the absolute explosion of PieFed users). Rimu also suggested Foriverse or The Federation or The Federated Platforms that actually Federate Properly or FPFP for short. And Snoopy liked Topicverse.

                                    In the Lemmy version of the poll, in descending order with number of upvotes the suggestions were:

                                    • Threadiverse (34); including extremely strong support from creators of Mbin, NodeBB, and elsewhere I've seen Ada; does not include additional upvotes to other comments also saying to use Threadiverse, e.g. another one below that with 18, or another with 12
                                    • Forumverse (29); also other support in comments below that e.g. one with 13
                                    • the negative answer that anything containing "-verse" is automatically bad (25)
                                    • "A quorum of forums." (14)
                                    • "The linked linkers, because we're link aggregators that link together." (8)
                                    • The Verse (or Le Verse, 😎
                                    • Lemmyverse (or Threadiverse, 😎
                                    • Topicverse (7); plus others with smaller vote counts e.g. one with 3
                                    • #Threadiville (6)
                                    • cross-faggregatorverse (6)
                                    • apparently Fediverse in 2008 was simply called #Identiverse, prior to ActivityPub (5); seconding the hatred towards anything with "-verse"
                                    • aggriverse (though was this supposed to be "aggreverse"? anyway, 5)
                                    • yes, even back in that poll irelephant suggested "boardnet"! (5 upvotes) also "forumnet"
                                    • Lembipie (5)
                                    • Lemmyville (4)
                                    • gnu-verse (4)
                                    • bulletinfedi (4)
                                    • "Fedivotes" or "Votiverse" (4)
                                    • The Linux hangout (4)
                                    • open social web (2)
                                    • Lempiebin (3)
                                    • Mycelium (2)
                                    • Censorverse (hehe, 3-6=-3)

                                    So Threadiverse won by an absolute landslide, with AT LEAST +17% more votes than the next runner-up, Forumverse.

                                    Personally I like irelephant's suggestion of "forumnet" better than boardnet. But the main obstacle is the hard-liners who do not want to budge from Threadiverse. Perhaps they might if something were clearly better and started to catch on?

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                                    • flamingos@feddit.ukF flamingos@feddit.uk

                                      Of course, if they didn't want that they wouldn't call their software nod ebb.

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                                      Better than nob edd!

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                                      • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                                        People have offered so many suggestions.

                                        In the PieFed poll, the breakdown was:

                                        • 36% Threadiverse
                                        • 27% (The) Verse
                                        • 18% Forumverse
                                        • 9% Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed
                                        • 9% Lemmyverse

                                        But there was only 11 votes total (this was prior to the absolute explosion of PieFed users). Rimu also suggested Foriverse or The Federation or The Federated Platforms that actually Federate Properly or FPFP for short. And Snoopy liked Topicverse.

                                        In the Lemmy version of the poll, in descending order with number of upvotes the suggestions were:

                                        • Threadiverse (34); including extremely strong support from creators of Mbin, NodeBB, and elsewhere I've seen Ada; does not include additional upvotes to other comments also saying to use Threadiverse, e.g. another one below that with 18, or another with 12
                                        • Forumverse (29); also other support in comments below that e.g. one with 13
                                        • the negative answer that anything containing "-verse" is automatically bad (25)
                                        • "A quorum of forums." (14)
                                        • "The linked linkers, because we're link aggregators that link together." (8)
                                        • The Verse (or Le Verse, 😎
                                        • Lemmyverse (or Threadiverse, 😎
                                        • Topicverse (7); plus others with smaller vote counts e.g. one with 3
                                        • #Threadiville (6)
                                        • cross-faggregatorverse (6)
                                        • apparently Fediverse in 2008 was simply called #Identiverse, prior to ActivityPub (5); seconding the hatred towards anything with "-verse"
                                        • aggriverse (though was this supposed to be "aggreverse"? anyway, 5)
                                        • yes, even back in that poll irelephant suggested "boardnet"! (5 upvotes) also "forumnet"
                                        • Lembipie (5)
                                        • Lemmyville (4)
                                        • gnu-verse (4)
                                        • bulletinfedi (4)
                                        • "Fedivotes" or "Votiverse" (4)
                                        • The Linux hangout (4)
                                        • open social web (2)
                                        • Lempiebin (3)
                                        • Mycelium (2)
                                        • Censorverse (hehe, 3-6=-3)

                                        So Threadiverse won by an absolute landslide, with AT LEAST +17% more votes than the next runner-up, Forumverse.

                                        Personally I like irelephant's suggestion of "forumnet" better than boardnet. But the main obstacle is the hard-liners who do not want to budge from Threadiverse. Perhaps they might if something were clearly better and started to catch on?

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                                        Thank you for the numbers!

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                                        • flamingos@feddit.ukF flamingos@feddit.uk

                                          This is not the place to start flamewars between Lemmy, Mbin and Piefed.

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                                          I hope the discussion on the features and bugs is still allowed. It’s just the drama around the devs that is prohibited.

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