NodeBB-ActivityPub Bridge Test Instance

@hamishcampbell @ricmac @evanprodromou @julian Thanks for your kind words. I won't interrupt your discussion with Julian anymore. I hope you reach some accord!

@hamishcampbell @ricmac @evanprodromou If I remember correctly, you shared a blog post with your ideas for what you want to do on the matter? I hope it works out. Good luck!

@trwnh @julian @johnonolan @angus there's a doc for this.

@julian @johnonolan @angus there's a whole task force for this. You've commented on it. Why does this need to be discussed?

@johnonolan @julian @matt @pfefferle more than meets the eye

@julian @tommi nooooooooooooooo

@julian Yes, Christine and Jessica are going to do a lightning talk at the devroom on Saturday. I am confirming a replacement speaker.

@naturzukunft I mean, first, the article is not about Social Web Foundation, but about the event at FOSDEM. Second, if you want to know about posts *from* the Social Web Foundation, you can identify that by the actor or the domain.

@naturzukunft @evanprodromou Why?

@julian @silverpill no recos for consumers yet, but: I'd start with content negotiation, then Link headers. From there, fallback to <link> elements in HTML. Last recourse, try Webfinger, especially for non-HTML resources like images.

@julian @silverpill the HTML discovery tf doc is filling in. There's still a lot to do but maybe that's a good place to ask questions.

ActivityPub Discovery

(swicg.github.io)

@trwnh @silverpill @erincandescent @julian Except for most interfaces, your first page is the current stuff, and you go back in time to find earlier stuff.

@trwnh @silverpill @erincandescent @julian

If you have bidirectional links (`first` and `last`) you can have stable collections with rev-chron or forward-chron. So, fair point.

@trwnh @silverpill @erincandescent @julian oh, yes, that's true, if you do "volatile paging" (last 20 pages).

If you have reified pages (item goes in one page and stays there), once the pages are full, they don't change (except for `Remove` activities).

Don't do volatile paging.

If you use reified pages, an add to a reverse-chron collection will typically have changes to `first` and the Collection itself.

@erincandescent @julian @evan@community.nodebb.org @trwnh @silverpill Standards are about making arbitrary decisions in the pursuit of uniformity.

@trwnh @silverpill @erincandescent @julian

It's bad for caching to do forward chron, which is why we don't do it anywhere else.

Also, it does not help you build a tree structure; older nodes are not necessarily at the top of the tree.

@erincandescent @julian @evan@community.nodebb.org @trwnh @silverpill WTF

@silverpill @trwnh @erincandescent @julian Also, I think you're imagining some kind of pre-order traversal sorting. If you want that, it's a lot easier to just walk the `replies` tree.

@silverpill @trwnh @erincandescent @julian Use the `last` property to start with the oldest page.

@trwnh @julian @erincandescent @silverpill you can also get the whole thing! That's the big benefit of having a `Collection` -- you can retrieve it.