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(streams) recognises them as group actors in its directory AFAIR. So there has to be some truth in that.

@silverpill I've yet to see Hubzilla backfill an entire existing thread at once. It does backfill posts from new connections on certain server apps, though. And it sometimes appears to backfill threads bit by bit over prolonged periods.

As for (streams), I can't see inhowfar it backfills because I barely actually follow anyone from there.

@Scott M. Stolz Like a diaspora* dev once said: Threads didn't "implement ActivityPub", they "implemented Mastodon".

@Stefan Bohacek @jdp23 @julian "Shadow mentioning" is a thing. (streams) and Forte do it to avoid clutter. Mentions don't have to be visible in a post/comment to work.

Little heads-up: So far, Hubzilla renders everything the way I guess it's intended. Nothing out of the ordinary.

@julian @Erin I'm not a dev, so I don't have the technical details down pat.

But Friendica and everything that came after it, including Hubzilla, handle conversations as something enclosed with exactly one (1) post and otherwise only comments, as opposed to Mastodon's loose chain of posts. Replies are always comments instead of posts, and they're always sent to the thread starter who is the owner of the whole thread, and who then distributes them to all participants.

Right after Friendica, permissions were introduced. These aren't stored with each comment separately and with the post only for the post itself. Rather, they're unified for the whole thread. The thread starter defines who is allowed to see what and who is allowed to do what. As opposed to Mastodon, commenters cannot change the permissions of their comments away from those of the start post.

Last year, (streams) switched to conversations as containers. To the outward, it works the same, but internally, it's different. Again, I'm not a dev. @Mike Macgirvin ️ has made all this. But to my understanding, this is when a thread really became an object of its own.

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@julian @Emelia It's also fair to mention that this has been the standard mode of operation for everything @Mike Macgirvin ️ has ever created until this year, starting in 2010 with Mistpark which is Friendica today. Friendica still behaves like this, Hubzilla still behaves like this, and (streams) behaved like this until the move to Collections in 2023. Forte is the only exception, it started with Collections right away which, on the outside, don't feel much different.

After all, they're more or less Facebook alternatives. And not the Twitter clone as which the Fediverse in its entirety is being perceived nowadays.

The advantage of this is that everyone who participates in a conversation generally always receives all replies. Not only those that mention them.

From a Mastodon point of view, this concept may appear either revolutionary or entirely unimaginable. But it has been around for 14 years.

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@julian What Lemmy understands is this:

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It was added back in the day to make it possible for Mastodon users to start new threads in connected Lemmy communities.

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