@Stefan Bohacek @jdp23 @julian "Shadow mentioning" is a thing. (streams) and Forte do it to avoid clutter. Mentions don't have to be visible in a post/comment to work.
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Quoted postsLittle heads-up: So far, Hubzilla renders everything the way I guess it's intended. Nothing out of the ordinary. -
Mentioned-only notes on Mastodon have no markupBecause Mastodon's HTML "sanitiser" "sanitises" away almost all HTML. Because HTML rendering isn't Twitter-style, purist, old-school, original-gangsta microblogging. The Mastodon devs staunchly refuse to implement sensible HTML rendering for this very reason.
There are only few exceptions. Bold type, italics, bullet-point lists (numbered lists are converted) etc. And even these have only been implemented since Mastodon 4. The entire first Twitter migration wave and large parts of the second one landed in a seemingly plain-text-only Fediverse.
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We really, really need "remote likes" in the Fediverse.@Johannes Ernst Not even Hubzilla and (streams) offer the option to allow everyone on the Internet to like or dislike stuff, and they certainly have the option to grant certain permissions to people without user accounts.
If that isn't implemented, it probably isn't implemented for a reason.
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Pre-Alpha ActivityPub-related bug reports@julian @Erin I'm not a dev, so I don't have the technical details down pat.
But Friendica and everything that came after it, including Hubzilla, handle conversations as something enclosed with exactly one (1) post and otherwise only comments, as opposed to Mastodon's loose chain of posts. Replies are always comments instead of posts, and they're always sent to the thread starter who is the owner of the whole thread, and who then distributes them to all participants.
Right after Friendica, permissions were introduced. These aren't stored with each comment separately and with the post only for the post itself. Rather, they're unified for the whole thread. The thread starter defines who is allowed to see what and who is allowed to do what. As opposed to Mastodon, commenters cannot change the permissions of their comments away from those of the start post.
Last year, (streams) switched to conversations as containers. To the outward, it works the same, but internally, it's different. Again, I'm not a dev. @Mike Macgirvin ️ has made all this. But to my understanding, this is when a thread really became an object of its own.
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FEP-7888 and the Add activity@julian @Emelia It's also fair to mention that this has been the standard mode of operation for everything @Mike Macgirvin ️ has ever created until this year, starting in 2010 with Mistpark which is Friendica today. Friendica still behaves like this, Hubzilla still behaves like this, and (streams) behaved like this until the move to Collections in 2023. Forte is the only exception, it started with Collections right away which, on the outside, don't feel much different.
After all, they're more or less Facebook alternatives. And not the Twitter clone as which the Fediverse in its entirety is being perceived nowadays.
The advantage of this is that everyone who participates in a conversation generally always receives all replies. Not only those that mention them.
From a Mastodon point of view, this concept may appear either revolutionary or entirely unimaginable. But it has been around for 14 years.
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Slightly better titles from fediverse topics@julian What Lemmy understands is this:Title
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It was added back in the day to make it possible for Mastodon users to start new threads in connected Lemmy communities.
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