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I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse.

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  • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

    @ddlyh I'm not familiar with that one. I've studied apps like FourSquare (and others) though.

    When I go searching for Honk, I only see an app for parking lots. Where can I learn more about Honk?

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    @benpate
    #Honk is an existing microblogging Fedi software that also allows for the tagging of posts with locations as one of its features. I investigated it a while back with an idea of setting up a server, but was put off by the lack of favourites etc..

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    • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

      I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse. In about two weeks, we've gone from crazy on I70 to a fledgling app that lets me annotate any location on the globe and share it over #ActivityPub

      There's still a lot to do. But there's enough here for me to ask for your help. I would love to hear what you think of this short video, and to start talking to everyone out there who's interested in making maps on the Fediverse.

      https://clip.place/w/4JHMF5FQoZw58UPwL6BLyv

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      #6

      @benpate Sounds like it could be used for reporting ICE? Like those apps that were banned recently.

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      • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

        I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse. In about two weeks, we've gone from crazy on I70 to a fledgling app that lets me annotate any location on the globe and share it over #ActivityPub

        There's still a lot to do. But there's enough here for me to ask for your help. I would love to hear what you think of this short video, and to start talking to everyone out there who's interested in making maps on the Fediverse.

        https://clip.place/w/4JHMF5FQoZw58UPwL6BLyv

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        @benpate This is awesome. I've been toying with an idea like this for years and it will IMHO be a killer app for AR.

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        • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

          I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse. In about two weeks, we've gone from crazy on I70 to a fledgling app that lets me annotate any location on the globe and share it over #ActivityPub

          There's still a lot to do. But there's enough here for me to ask for your help. I would love to hear what you think of this short video, and to start talking to everyone out there who's interested in making maps on the Fediverse.

          https://clip.place/w/4JHMF5FQoZw58UPwL6BLyv

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          @benpate

          Sure, doing taxiteam for the german yellow cabs. Described some aspects in https://github.com/w3c/activitystreams/issues/582

          Would be interested in finishing the federated geocoding part together.

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          • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

            I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse. In about two weeks, we've gone from crazy on I70 to a fledgling app that lets me annotate any location on the globe and share it over #ActivityPub

            There's still a lot to do. But there's enough here for me to ask for your help. I would love to hear what you think of this short video, and to start talking to everyone out there who's interested in making maps on the Fediverse.

            https://clip.place/w/4JHMF5FQoZw58UPwL6BLyv

            julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            benpate@mastodon.social this is super super cool. Are you integrating with places.pub as well?

            cc evan

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            • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

              I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse. In about two weeks, we've gone from crazy on I70 to a fledgling app that lets me annotate any location on the globe and share it over #ActivityPub

              There's still a lot to do. But there's enough here for me to ask for your help. I would love to hear what you think of this short video, and to start talking to everyone out there who's interested in making maps on the Fediverse.

              https://clip.place/w/4JHMF5FQoZw58UPwL6BLyv

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              @benpate Ben this is so impressive!

              I can’t come up with coherent comments or questions just now but I’m definitely tuned in and pondering how this connects to all my Future Cities/civic tech tangles.

              Cc @samnabi this is one of the “somebody had an idea sometime around FediForum two weeks ago and now there’s a whole new dimension…” things I was trying to explain. I will include Ben’s FediCON talk in what I send you, as well.

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              • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse. In about two weeks, we've gone from crazy on I70 to a fledgling app that lets me annotate any location on the globe and share it over #ActivityPub

                There's still a lot to do. But there's enough here for me to ask for your help. I would love to hear what you think of this short video, and to start talking to everyone out there who's interested in making maps on the Fediverse.

                https://clip.place/w/4JHMF5FQoZw58UPwL6BLyv

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                #11

                @benpate this is pretty exciting! do you have any idea what safety features will look like? would you build something into it that, say, actively prevents others from doxing someone?

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                • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                  I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse. In about two weeks, we've gone from crazy on I70 to a fledgling app that lets me annotate any location on the globe and share it over #ActivityPub

                  There's still a lot to do. But there's enough here for me to ask for your help. I would love to hear what you think of this short video, and to start talking to everyone out there who's interested in making maps on the Fediverse.

                  https://clip.place/w/4JHMF5FQoZw58UPwL6BLyv

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                  #12

                  @benpate love what you’ve done so far. Can see so many uses. There’s a definite need to have ‘private’ tags / entries as well as public ones.

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                  • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                    I'm expecting this kind of street-level annotation to have lots of uses, from groups of friends replicating #FourSquare, to communities organizing events, or citizen #Journalists recording what's going on in their neighborhood.

                    Please share this with anyone who might benefit from sharing location notes online. It's time for me to start collecting some needs from real-world users.

                    https://github.com/EmissarySocial/atlas

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                    @benpate Super cool! I wish the README had instructions on how to run this 🙂

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                    • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                      I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse. In about two weeks, we've gone from crazy on I70 to a fledgling app that lets me annotate any location on the globe and share it over #ActivityPub

                      There's still a lot to do. But there's enough here for me to ask for your help. I would love to hear what you think of this short video, and to start talking to everyone out there who's interested in making maps on the Fediverse.

                      https://clip.place/w/4JHMF5FQoZw58UPwL6BLyv

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                      #14

                      @benpate ooh!

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                      • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                        I'm excited to show off #Atlas - a social mapping server for the #Fediverse. In about two weeks, we've gone from crazy on I70 to a fledgling app that lets me annotate any location on the globe and share it over #ActivityPub

                        There's still a lot to do. But there's enough here for me to ask for your help. I would love to hear what you think of this short video, and to start talking to everyone out there who's interested in making maps on the Fediverse.

                        https://clip.place/w/4JHMF5FQoZw58UPwL6BLyv

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                        #15

                        Better Atlas than the other one. A couple of questions:
                        - are you envisioning this to be a federated Foursquare or Yelp?
                        - inserting location tags to people's posts increases their personal data exposure quite a lot. What privacy implications do you see here?
                        - I didn't catch in the video what is the identity model you're basing this on. New identity on Atlas, or a tie-in to an existing fedi identity?
                        @benpate

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                        • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                          I'm expecting this kind of street-level annotation to have lots of uses, from groups of friends replicating #FourSquare, to communities organizing events, or citizen #Journalists recording what's going on in their neighborhood.

                          Please share this with anyone who might benefit from sharing location notes online. It's time for me to start collecting some needs from real-world users.

                          https://github.com/EmissarySocial/atlas

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                          @benpate This is really great! One project that could very well be a nail for this hammer is https://wanderer.to !

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                          • osma@mas.toO osma@mas.to

                            Better Atlas than the other one. A couple of questions:
                            - are you envisioning this to be a federated Foursquare or Yelp?
                            - inserting location tags to people's posts increases their personal data exposure quite a lot. What privacy implications do you see here?
                            - I didn't catch in the video what is the identity model you're basing this on. New identity on Atlas, or a tie-in to an existing fedi identity?
                            @benpate

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                            osma@mas.to benpate@mastodon.social I'd assume that if you're using Atlas that you're explicitly aware that the location data is being broadcast out, yeah?

                            I'd imagine it to be akin to an opt-in mechanism.

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                              I think we have enough evidence by now to know that even people who should have training to know better, accidentally reveal too much on apps, and that location is a particularly sensitive item.

                              https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1978942.1979295

                              https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/news/a40358143/strava-israeli-military/

                              https://www.securityweek.com/fitness-app-strava-gives-away-location-of-biden-trump-and-other-leaders-french-newspaper-says/

                              @julian @benpate

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                                @julian @osma @benpate  I don’t think that an app should tie my physical location to posting about a location, and it is not necessarily true that you need to be there to talk about that location.

                                And that could be anything from trip advisor like blog posts and reviews to boosting and chatting about social activism or events happening at a location.

                                For example, I may want to location tag Yosemite when writing about the current lack of funding to protect the land from human aggression. Or I would want to do so when writing about my experience at the top of Half  Dome decades ago as part of a shared human experience.

                                 

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                                • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                                  I'm expecting this kind of street-level annotation to have lots of uses, from groups of friends replicating #FourSquare, to communities organizing events, or citizen #Journalists recording what's going on in their neighborhood.

                                  Please share this with anyone who might benefit from sharing location notes online. It's time for me to start collecting some needs from real-world users.

                                  https://github.com/EmissarySocial/atlas

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                                  @benpate this could be fun for geocaching

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                                  • ddlyh@topspicy.socialD ddlyh@topspicy.social

                                    @benpate
                                    #Honk is an existing microblogging Fedi software that also allows for the tagging of posts with locations as one of its features. I investigated it a while back with an idea of setting up a server, but was put off by the lack of favourites etc..

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                                    @ddlyh Cool. And thank you. I'll check it out. I can't really compare features until I've done the class reading --but Atlas is pretty bare-bones right now, so I'll have a lot of catching up to do for anything that's already out there.

                                    The good thing is that Atlas is an empty slate, and we can make it do whatever we need.

                                    So, for favorites: is this to mark locations in your inbox as "favorite" locations to review later?

                                    What are the important things we should put into this app?

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                                    • rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nzR rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz

                                      @benpate Sounds like it could be used for reporting ICE? Like those apps that were banned recently.

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                                      @rimu Hey Rimu 🙂

                                      I'm running this in an iOS simulator just to show the mobile theme, but this is 100% a web app.

                                      There are many uses for this kind of geotagging. I won't be hosting a public Atlas server, but others communities/organizations can launch their own for whatever purposes they need.

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                                      • ben@s.djehuti.comB ben@s.djehuti.com

                                        @benpate This is awesome. I've been toying with an idea like this for years and it will IMHO be a killer app for AR.

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                                        @ben Yeah, I really wanted to post comments on some billboards I saw on the freeway. Augmented Reality is beyond my current skillset -- and to make it work, we'd probably need to build out an AR ecosystem on the Fediverse, too.

                                        Hopefully tagging addresses/locations is enough of a step forward that we can find some good uses for this.

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                                        • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                                          @ben Yeah, I really wanted to post comments on some billboards I saw on the freeway. Augmented Reality is beyond my current skillset -- and to make it work, we'd probably need to build out an AR ecosystem on the Fediverse, too.

                                          Hopefully tagging addresses/locations is enough of a step forward that we can find some good uses for this.

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                                          @benpate I think the federation is the hard part. I think writing the actual AR application is probably pretty straightforward, at least for developers who are already familiar with their AR platform. (I don't know visionOS or whatever Meta uses, but I know iOS and I doubt it's that much different.)

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