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  3. This is such an interesting thread as it exposes the friction between ATProtocol/ActivityPub.

This is such an interesting thread as it exposes the friction between ATProtocol/ActivityPub.

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  • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

    @virtualpierogi @sri @jsalvador @ben

    Unfortunately there's a new threat, and it was addressed in the #FOSDEM keynote speech by @michiel of @nlnet .. and that is the mad dash to incorporate #AI into everything and vibe-code stuff together in a heartbeat.

    I think this is particular bad for the fediverse #SocialWeb still lacking its robust foundations. The #LLM's will have no problem figuring out how to mix'n mash the existing protocol decay and tech debt into new applications that are rushed into production. Finally non-protocol-experts are enable on the ecosystem and can onboard themselves without involving themselves in endless plumbing of the most low-level technical implemention details of #ActivityPub devs.

    But the ecosystem will rot and decay as a result of it. Furthermore if a slew of AI-generated fedi apps are launched in quick succession and some of them find good uptake (until they break in unexpected ways), it will serve to attract unwanted corporate attention I'm afraid.

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    @virtualpierogi @sri @jsalvador @ben @michiel @nlnet

    By their design #LLM's will always follow the old way of doing things here, and I really wonder how this is going to turn out. People should be very wary here. #AI application trends towards a point-of-no-return, where only the AI can still keep track of the generated code mess.

    A good example here is this Microsoft distinguished engineer saying that their aim is for one dev employee creating 1 million lines of code in one month. Once you get there, you cannot ever go back without ditching all AI stuffz and starting over.

    Btw, the talk by Michiel Leenaars is mentioned my blog post, but I'll drop it here too. A very interesting recommended watch:

    https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/FE7ULY-foss-in-times-of-war-scarcity-and-ai/

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      @virtualpierogi @sri @jsalvador @ben @michiel @nlnet

      By their design #LLM's will always follow the old way of doing things here, and I really wonder how this is going to turn out. People should be very wary here. #AI application trends towards a point-of-no-return, where only the AI can still keep track of the generated code mess.

      A good example here is this Microsoft distinguished engineer saying that their aim is for one dev employee creating 1 million lines of code in one month. Once you get there, you cannot ever go back without ditching all AI stuffz and starting over.

      Btw, the talk by Michiel Leenaars is mentioned my blog post, but I'll drop it here too. A very interesting recommended watch:

      https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/FE7ULY-foss-in-times-of-war-scarcity-and-ai/

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      @smallcircles @sri @jsalvador @ben @michiel @nlnet
      Ive seen that godot is passing through the same problems , the first solution that comes to mind is whitelisting the commits that come from real coders that contribute quality code. So you have to apply for a green card so to speak to commit your code.

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        @smallcircles @sri @jsalvador @ben @michiel @nlnet
        Ive seen that godot is passing through the same problems , the first solution that comes to mind is whitelisting the commits that come from real coders that contribute quality code. So you have to apply for a green card so to speak to commit your code.

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        @virtualpierogi @sri @jsalvador @ben @michiel @nlnet

        Yes, I've noticed that in #FOSS realms there's a rapid change to the development processes that are followed. Where projects no longer allow people to just contribute PR's.

        In many github projects for instance you should first start a Discussion and get dev team's consent to create an Issue, which you may then create a PR for. Any other direct contributions are either disallowed or immediately closed.

        There was also this Vouch reputation system that got popularity real quick. And there'll be more changes like that I think.

        https://github.com/mitchellh/vouch

        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46930961

        I've been looking at #ForgeFed and how it is set up. Currently it models very much the application model of what constitutes a typical "Code forge", but this is restrictive and going from lowest common denominator between forges. There's opportunity here to focus on the domain of "Software development" and the (social) coding processes between all stakeholders.

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