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NodeBB-ActivityPub Bridge Test Instance

kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.workK

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  • Concept for discussion: Replacing HTTP Signatures with Bearer Tokens for ActivityPub Federation
    kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.workK kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work
    @smallcircles @hazelnoot @cwebber I'm worried that capabilities in their entirety are an extremely dramatic break from current fedi, which makes it pretty much impossible to gain any adoption without a complete backwards-incompatible break that somehow all software are onboard with.

    These tokens are a bit easier to implement which I would imagine would help adoption, but I'm still doubtful it will happen as it would also be a (smaller) backwards compatibility break.

    For comparison, our Mastodon overlords seem to be doubling down on HTTP signatures though:
    github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/34814
    Uncategorized activitypub federation

  • Concept for discussion: Replacing HTTP Signatures with Bearer Tokens for ActivityPub Federation
    kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.workK kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work
    @hazelnoot yeah but won't you think of the poor international standards organization W3C
    Uncategorized activitypub federation

  • Concept for discussion: Replacing HTTP Signatures with Bearer Tokens for ActivityPub Federation
    kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.workK kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work
    @hazelnoot oh and
    - Out-of-band protocol - communication can't happen over ActivityPub / ActivityStreams because this is a prerequisite to authenticate any request. (but again, we already require WebFinger and some software requires NodeInfo for full support.)
    throw an @context to the payloads and and suddenly it's not out-of-band. you could go as far as to make it an activity sent to a shared inbox but now implementation becomes a bit more complex as you have to parse the activity first to see if you should validate signatures or not
    Uncategorized activitypub federation

  • Concept for discussion: Replacing HTTP Signatures with Bearer Tokens for ActivityPub Federation
    kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.workK kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work
    @hazelnoot

    i'd support this but it's never gonna happen so whatever
    - Breaks the actor model - instances are required as a first-class concept. (but really, the actor model is basically dead already. you can't even federate reliably without a WebFinger server, at minimum.)
    per-actor bearer tokens taken from an endpoint in as:endpoints. use the same instance actor concept as you do with http signatures for bootstrapping (also webfinger doesn't matter for the actor model in practice)
    Uncategorized activitypub federation
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