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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comW wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    benleman@lemmy.world
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    Some people just can't handle being released from Plato's cave.

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      To be honest, I don't think a lot of people are ready. It's a hard thing to deconstruct your faith and if you're not careful it can take you to some really dark places. For a lot of people it's the way they find meaning and solace in a world of pain. Ultimately if you can find that comfort without tying it to religion that's better but not everyone can. That's my take on it post-deconversion

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      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldM mojofrododojo@lemmy.world

        delivering someone from a lifetime of sexual and gender oppression, and eliminating their need to tithe a portion of their income to an organization that hides and protects pedophiles and rapists?

        Mom's on the floor weeping with joy.

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        victorz@lemmy.world
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        Not every member of a church experiences those things first hand.

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        • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comW wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          rooty@lemmy.world
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          Oh boy, I sure love the ol' "atheists are filthy neckbeards" canard. Haven't heard that one before.

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          • B benleman@lemmy.world

            For some people it is. Hell, there's even a character in the actual movie who thinks so.

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            tatann@lemm.ee
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            Yeah, and he doesn't mind killing other people for that

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            • V victorz@lemmy.world

              Not every member of a church experiences those things first hand.

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              mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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              lucky! they still subsidize the activity if they tithe tho.

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              • B bitcrafter@programming.dev

                DEAR LORD PEOPLE, SOMETIMES THERE IS NOT A DEEPER MESSAGE AND IT'S JUST A DUMB JOKE!

                Seriously, check out the other comics by this artist. They just like absurdist humor, like this one:

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                jaydee@lemmy.sdf.org
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                Don't be anti-intellectual about this silly comic. People can apply intellectual analysis to stupid things if they want to, and they damn-well may find deeper meaning sometimes.

                Let people have their hobbies.

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                • B benleman@lemmy.world

                  Some people just can't handle being released from Plato's cave.

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                  jaydee@lemmy.sdf.org
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                  The first experience for many is crushing despair. It can take time to get out of that slump and learn to find meaning in a meaningless world.

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                  • A adalast@lemmy.world

                    Agnostic here and yeah, most atheists and agnostics I have ever met are about the same. We don't care if YOU believe. We care that you care we don't. Most of us will never utter a word against your religion and beliefs as long as you "do unto others" and all that jazz. This comic reaks of being drawn by a Christian about how they think Athiests behave and feel. This video is ancient now, but I get the same vibes off this comic.

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                    jaydee@lemmy.sdf.org
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                    I take this comic to be more poking fun at the portion of atheists who make their entire personality around disproving God's existence - people who try to spread atheism the same way christians spread their own gospel. It's largely not applicable to other atheists.

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                    • V victorz@lemmy.world

                      Not every member of a church experiences those things first hand.

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                      honytawk@feddit.nl
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                      Yeah, there are exceptions in every group

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                      • R rooty@lemmy.world

                        Oh boy, I sure love the ol' "atheists are filthy neckbeards" canard. Haven't heard that one before.

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                        blubber28@lemmy.world
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                        Don't forget the "not believing in god = sadness" one. Realizing it is fake actually brought relief for the ex-religious people that I know (anecdotal, I know. I don't have the actual numbers).

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                        • J jaydee@lemmy.sdf.org

                          Don't be anti-intellectual about this silly comic. People can apply intellectual analysis to stupid things if they want to, and they damn-well may find deeper meaning sometimes.

                          Let people have their hobbies.

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                          bitcrafter@programming.dev
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                          Sure, but that also means that I get to make my own contribution to the discussion. 😀

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                          • B bitcrafter@programming.dev

                            Sure, but that also means that I get to make my own contribution to the discussion. 😀

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                            jaydee@lemmy.sdf.org
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                            I mean, you get to make your own contribution because we're on an open platform, not for any other reason. quite often intellectual spaces shut down and deplatform anti-intellectual rhetoric and thought-terminating cliches such as what you've stated. It serves no one discussing the intricacies of any work to have someone yelling "The curtains were fucking blue!", and this comment section literally exists to discuss the above comic and its various aspects.

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                            • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works

                              There's a difference between religion and faith. Faith is belief in a higher power. Religion is an institution that exploits faith to opress people. This neckbeard atheist didn't thwart religion, he just destroyed his mom's faith. I have my doubts that his mom was doing a lot of oppressing.

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                              angry_autist@lemmy.world
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                              neither of those definitions are correct...

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                              • J jaydee@lemmy.sdf.org

                                I mean, you get to make your own contribution because we're on an open platform, not for any other reason. quite often intellectual spaces shut down and deplatform anti-intellectual rhetoric and thought-terminating cliches such as what you've stated. It serves no one discussing the intricacies of any work to have someone yelling "The curtains were fucking blue!", and this comment section literally exists to discuss the above comic and its various aspects.

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                                bitcrafter@programming.dev
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                                Example intellectual comments being posted here:

                                I didn’t realize neckbeard atheists oppressed so many people compared to religion, thanks to the author for opening my eyes

                                So many militant atheists. Saying so much, all just to prove the comic right.

                                Having said that, my specific objection is not to all of the discussion taking place here, but to the fact that a lot of the comments seem to be projecting their own personal viewpoints onto the comic.

                                Also, I was not shouting people down; I was speaking in all caps to be funny. It's fine if you personally did not think I funny, but that was the intent (which in retrospect could probably have been conveyed more clearly if I had also dropped the comma so that it was purely a stream of words), just like it was the intent of the comic author to make a dumb joke rather than to state a strong opinion about atheists. I think that it is useful to separate the intent of what an author was trying to accomplish from your own thoughts on the subject.

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                                • J jaydee@lemmy.sdf.org

                                  The first experience for many is crushing despair. It can take time to get out of that slump and learn to find meaning in a meaningless world.

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                                  spankmonkey@lemmy.world
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                                  The world has plenty of meaning that doesn't involve any kind of faith or religion.

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                                  • A angry_autist@lemmy.world

                                    neither of those definitions are correct...

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                                    agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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                                    They are sufficient for the topic at hand.

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                                    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comW wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      donkter@lemmy.world
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                                      So many people in this thread completely missing the satire. The author is clearly also an atheist poking fun at the highschool reddit atheist stereotype. Taking this way too seriously.

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                                      • tkk13909@sopuli.xyzT tkk13909@sopuli.xyz

                                        To be honest, I don't think a lot of people are ready. It's a hard thing to deconstruct your faith and if you're not careful it can take you to some really dark places. For a lot of people it's the way they find meaning and solace in a world of pain. Ultimately if you can find that comfort without tying it to religion that's better but not everyone can. That's my take on it post-deconversion

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                                        furbag@lemmy.world
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                                        I try not to be too judgemental of people who are religious. We are not evolved enough as a species to be able to comprehend the unknown or unknowable, and everyone to some degree has to cope with this somehow, even if we aren't consciously aware of it. Faith is an easy, convenient and catch-all solution to all of life's unexplained phenomena, so it makes sense that people tend to gravitate towards it naturally, all it takes is a little push during childhood.

                                        I take issue with it when religious folk try to force their views onto other people. Proselytizing is one thing, but converting people by duress or force, or by weaponizing the government apparatus to conform to their views and their views only, is where I stop caring about the feelings of those religious cults and do everything in my power to stop them or undermine their efforts.

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                                        • tkk13909@sopuli.xyzT tkk13909@sopuli.xyz

                                          To be honest, I don't think a lot of people are ready. It's a hard thing to deconstruct your faith and if you're not careful it can take you to some really dark places. For a lot of people it's the way they find meaning and solace in a world of pain. Ultimately if you can find that comfort without tying it to religion that's better but not everyone can. That's my take on it post-deconversion

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                                          samus12345@lemm.ee
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                                          Yeah, going from finding fulfillment through religion to finding it through other means isn't something you can do instantly.

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