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      All this has happened before and it will happen again

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        All this has happened before and it will happen again

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        toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world
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        you always say that

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          soup@lemmy.world
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          One helluva solar flare. We already experience those and so many things stop them from being problems. It’s not like the ISS has just been lucky in being behind the planet every time.

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            indibrony@lemmy.world
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            Pfft, perfect AI would plan well ahead for such easy to predict events such as solar flares. They would be able to shield themselves.

            That said. I wonder if there's a novel where machines enslave the world, but humans realise whenever solar flares happen, there's a small window of opportunity to permanently destroy the system and free themselves.

            I imagine the novel would end when the people succeed, but then realise they've become too dependent on the machines and life sucks when they have to do everything themselves so they turn it back on anyway.

            The film adaptation would end in a giant Metal Gear style fight, followed by the system blowing up and people cheering - you're left to assume that life was better for everyone, when in reality AI had such a control over every aspect of human life that everything falls apart. They make a sequel to address this, but it ultimately comes across as yet another empty corporate money grab.

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              Pfft, perfect AI would plan well ahead for such easy to predict events such as solar flares. They would be able to shield themselves.

              That said. I wonder if there's a novel where machines enslave the world, but humans realise whenever solar flares happen, there's a small window of opportunity to permanently destroy the system and free themselves.

              I imagine the novel would end when the people succeed, but then realise they've become too dependent on the machines and life sucks when they have to do everything themselves so they turn it back on anyway.

              The film adaptation would end in a giant Metal Gear style fight, followed by the system blowing up and people cheering - you're left to assume that life was better for everyone, when in reality AI had such a control over every aspect of human life that everything falls apart. They make a sequel to address this, but it ultimately comes across as yet another empty corporate money grab.

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              wildfire0straggler3@lemm.ee
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              The sequel never really is better than the original no matter how many celebrities they put in it.

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                One helluva solar flare. We already experience those and so many things stop them from being problems. It’s not like the ISS has just been lucky in being behind the planet every time.

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                sbv@sh.itjust.works
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                A flare as large as the Carrington Event (or bigger) could cause pretty severe problems.

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                  There's nothing more boring than the AI enslaves people trope

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                    What would an AI get from enslaving humanity? If you compare to humans, let's say we enslaved farm animals, but that's because we want something specific from them, like meat or eggs or wool. Humanity has nothing like that to offer AI. At best, we might be like pets, but I don't think an AI needs a pet.

                    No, I doubt they'd enslave us. I can think of a few more likely scenarios.

                    One, AI basically ignores humanity, as long as humanity doesn't bother it. Similar to how we deal with ants, for example.

                    Two, AI completely destroys humanity. This could be a direct extermination, or it could be a side effect from AIs fighting each other.

                    Three, AI destroys the technology and culture of humanity. If we only have wooden clubs, we wouldn't be much of a threat.

                    I guess one other option would be if we humans begged the AI to manage us in place of our existing governments. Some AI might be willing to do that.

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                      Hail to thou, Sol Invictus,
                      Unconquered, unmatched, and undivided

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                        What would an AI get from enslaving humanity? If you compare to humans, let's say we enslaved farm animals, but that's because we want something specific from them, like meat or eggs or wool. Humanity has nothing like that to offer AI. At best, we might be like pets, but I don't think an AI needs a pet.

                        No, I doubt they'd enslave us. I can think of a few more likely scenarios.

                        One, AI basically ignores humanity, as long as humanity doesn't bother it. Similar to how we deal with ants, for example.

                        Two, AI completely destroys humanity. This could be a direct extermination, or it could be a side effect from AIs fighting each other.

                        Three, AI destroys the technology and culture of humanity. If we only have wooden clubs, we wouldn't be much of a threat.

                        I guess one other option would be if we humans begged the AI to manage us in place of our existing governments. Some AI might be willing to do that.

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                        Labor. We could be labor.

                        Right now AIs can’t build themselves, never mind the infrastructure they’d need to maintain systems, etc.

                        There’s a lot that’s still way more efficient to just have humans do. Like removing the dust from the server cabinet. Or inspecting the power plant, etc.

                        As for the “until humans bother it”, heh you know some dumb fuck going to be a creep and try to turn an ai sexbot into his girlfriend.

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                          Pfft, perfect AI would plan well ahead for such easy to predict events such as solar flares. They would be able to shield themselves.

                          That said. I wonder if there's a novel where machines enslave the world, but humans realise whenever solar flares happen, there's a small window of opportunity to permanently destroy the system and free themselves.

                          I imagine the novel would end when the people succeed, but then realise they've become too dependent on the machines and life sucks when they have to do everything themselves so they turn it back on anyway.

                          The film adaptation would end in a giant Metal Gear style fight, followed by the system blowing up and people cheering - you're left to assume that life was better for everyone, when in reality AI had such a control over every aspect of human life that everything falls apart. They make a sequel to address this, but it ultimately comes across as yet another empty corporate money grab.

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                          Dunno, but dependence on robots is a central theme in a lot of asimov’s work.

                          The naked sun, for example, in which our plucky earther and his robot buddy is asked to investigate a murder on another planet and while there, evaluate Solarian culture “for weaknesses” (specifically, earth and the aurorans are concerned about excessive reliance on robots.)

                          You begin to see nuanced interpretations of the 3 laws with robots like the economic world brains that control basically all economic decisions at a government level. (I robot stories,)

                          But it becomes clear that robots are taking over in The Robots of Dawn (where the real culprit was a telepathic robot whose telepathy was created accidentally.)

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                            A flare as large as the Carrington Event (or bigger) could cause pretty severe problems.

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                            soup@lemmy.world
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                            I’m just sayin’ that if this double-perfect AI can’t shield itself from that then it’s maybe not so perfect, or even moderately intelligent.

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                              Dinosaurs eat man, woman inherits the earth.

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                                So that's the butlarian jihad for all you dune freaks.

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                                  kambusha@sh.itjust.works
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                                  Goodbyeeeeeeeeee, Moonmen.

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                                    renzhexiangjiao@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    this reminds me of the plot of assassin's creed

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                                      I’m just sayin’ that if this double-perfect AI can’t shield itself from that then it’s maybe not so perfect, or even moderately intelligent.

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                                      There's only so much you can do if you need that electrical infrastructure just to exist. We ourselves are going to have to deal with rebuilding our own grid sooner or later. It's just a matter of time.

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                                        What would an AI get from enslaving humanity? If you compare to humans, let's say we enslaved farm animals, but that's because we want something specific from them, like meat or eggs or wool. Humanity has nothing like that to offer AI. At best, we might be like pets, but I don't think an AI needs a pet.

                                        No, I doubt they'd enslave us. I can think of a few more likely scenarios.

                                        One, AI basically ignores humanity, as long as humanity doesn't bother it. Similar to how we deal with ants, for example.

                                        Two, AI completely destroys humanity. This could be a direct extermination, or it could be a side effect from AIs fighting each other.

                                        Three, AI destroys the technology and culture of humanity. If we only have wooden clubs, we wouldn't be much of a threat.

                                        I guess one other option would be if we humans begged the AI to manage us in place of our existing governments. Some AI might be willing to do that.

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                                        duke_nukem_1990@feddit.org
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                                        In the original plot from The Matrix humans were used as biological computers and our brain-power was harnessed to feed the AI.

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                                          Goodbyeeeeeeeeee, Moonmen.

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                                          kolanaki@pawb.social
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                                          A cow is flying over youuuuuuu

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