Volume [Mr Lovenstein]
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I don't need high-powered, audiophile-grade surround speakers. Just maybe something a little better than a landline phone. There's a pretty wide spectrum, and TVs come with shit tier audio. They don't have to, but they do.
That's what they sell sound bars for. They even have brackets to hand the sound bar from your tv or wall mount. Putting that in every tv adds a hundred bucks for hardware not everyone will use.
"One size fits all" sucks, it's better to offer a modular system that people can adapt to their needs and situation. It requires a tiny bit of extra effort but plenty of retailers will do the thinking for you too if you pay them.
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That's what they sell sound bars for. They even have brackets to hand the sound bar from your tv or wall mount. Putting that in every tv adds a hundred bucks for hardware not everyone will use.
"One size fits all" sucks, it's better to offer a modular system that people can adapt to their needs and situation. It requires a tiny bit of extra effort but plenty of retailers will do the thinking for you too if you pay them.
It doesn't need to be one size fits all though. Currently one size fits few, when a few extra bucks could make it one size fits most.
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It doesn't need to be one size fits all though. Currently one size fits few, when a few extra bucks could make it one size fits most.
Currently it's a basic starting point that they fully expect users to augment with their sound solution of choice. This is fine. I don't want to pay more for my next television because you're too lazy to figure out what the sockets on the back are for.
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Sometimes there's also a random high pitched buzz in the background that's louder than anything else for one whole scene. How heard would it be to just remove that frequency range or maybe see that it is louder than every other scene?
Solve guy went to music school instead of law to add that in there. He's keeping it in there if it's the last thing he does
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Well since you're obviously into film, you should invest in a proper Dolby Atmos/DTS:X surround setup to give you options. You can either turn up the center channel, put it in "dialog" mode, or enable dynamic range compression (night mode).
Regardless, tou're not getting the full experience if you don't have a surround sound setup. Ideally you should buy a receiver and hand pick your component speakers, but even a sound bar is better than TV speakers, so long as it's from a well-known brand and has up firing drivers in both the front and rear. If the third number in the number of speakers is 4 or higher (ex 5.1.4), then you're good to go.
This applies to everybody reading this, not just lagoon8622. All your dialog problems are being caused by your TV speakers.
I shouldn't have to invest hundreds of dollars into a whole separate sound system just because the sound designers of a movie can't properly balance to audio for stereo sound, the single most common audio set up in the entire world.
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Source/secret panel: https://m.tapas.io/episode/3005249
This is perfect lol. Now we need one for absurdly loud motorcycles ruining an evening’s cool.
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Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel
That's part of the problem, isn't it? They're trying to make TVs into an art piece instead of a functional appliance.
We were ok with fatass CRT sets when that's all that was available. When LCD became standard, most people were happy about that. Now that bezel-less TVs are a thing, apparently we can no longer go back to anything but a 65" iPad.
bezel-less
This is fine with OLEDs and future(?) emissive displays TBH. They don't need a thick bezel for much of anything, and thinning them out saves on materials/shipping weight up to a point.
Edge-lit LCDs were kind of an insane fad, but... outside low-end PC monitors, that's mostly over.
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Blind people don't exist.
If subtitles are on I may as well be deaf because I'm no longer watching with those damn words getting in the way. That's what books are for.
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I shouldn't have to invest hundreds of dollars into a whole separate sound system just because the sound designers of a movie can't properly balance to audio for stereo sound, the single most common audio set up in the entire world.
It would be nice if TVs came with a proper sound system, but since they don't, you should factor audio into the cost of your home entertainment system. That's like going to a restaurant and ordering food without a drink.
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Alot of it is... pretentiousness?
Like, there's a lot of high-brow thinking in the movie industry where stuff is mixed for movie theaters. You know, theaters that have good surround speaker setups, but also turn the volume way too loud. It's "as its meant to be experienced" if you ask the Hollywood producers. I think Netflix and more small-screen oriented producers are better about this, where even surround mixes are much more reasonable.
I've made similar experiences in movie theatres. And streaming services continuously disappoint on that front too.
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Source/secret panel: https://m.tapas.io/episode/3005249
This could be because your TV sucks, or at least the audio, a lot of companies push for big Bass like would be in an explosion because it sells TVs which would be fine if they didn't skimp on the highs and mids making speech suck.
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Been there the hard way. I got Tubular Bells II, and listened to it via headphones (I had no speakers).
There is one passage where the music ends, and a child speaks. It was hard to understand, so I turned the volume to 11, and heard the end of the sentence like "and nothing was ever heard of him again but the sound of tu-bu-lar bells." The next sound was the BANG of the tubular bells, making my eardrums meet somewhere in the middle. somewhere...
As someone who played EVE a lot back in the day, all I can hear is "get that interdictor!"
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This could be because your TV sucks, or at least the audio, a lot of companies push for big Bass like would be in an explosion because it sells TVs which would be fine if they didn't skimp on the highs and mids making speech suck.
Lol, no, it's not because your TV sucks, but because almost none of us are watching on a 5.1 or higher channel system and the audio mix was never changed from their cinema release
Anything I watch in my TV that sounds awful sounds just fine out of my 5.1 PC because I suddenly have access to more channels where the audio is actually out (dialogue looooves to get mixed to center only for some reason)
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Lol, no, it's not because your TV sucks, but because almost none of us are watching on a 5.1 or higher channel system and the audio mix was never changed from their cinema release
Anything I watch in my TV that sounds awful sounds just fine out of my 5.1 PC because I suddenly have access to more channels where the audio is actually out (dialogue looooves to get mixed to center only for some reason)
This may be for some cases. But I've also had the exact same experience in the theater except I can't change the volume. All the fun of not understanding mixed with the thrill of losing your hearing.
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Source/secret panel: https://m.tapas.io/episode/3005249
Exactly why I use subtitles.
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Lol, I was actually thinking of using TNG as a positive example! Patrick Stewart is trained in Shakespearean drama and enunciates as such. Very pleasant to listen to.
The actual dialogue is good, I agree. But even the best talented actors in the world can't undo the mixing of a space ship transmitting sound as if there is air while going faster than light.
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Lol, no, it's not because your TV sucks, but because almost none of us are watching on a 5.1 or higher channel system and the audio mix was never changed from their cinema release
Anything I watch in my TV that sounds awful sounds just fine out of my 5.1 PC because I suddenly have access to more channels where the audio is actually out (dialogue looooves to get mixed to center only for some reason)
I'm pretty sure a lot of it is simply because that sort of mixing style is pretty fashionable at the moment. If you mix movies like they were mixed in the 90s and 2000's (i.e. very clear and distinct dialog) then they don't 'sound' modern.
Even in cinemas the mix is awful and almost inaudible half the time. Extreme example but I saw Tenet at the cinema and had to guess at half of the dialog because Christopher Nolan is especially and increasingly fond of this.
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Lol, no, it's not because your TV sucks, but because almost none of us are watching on a 5.1 or higher channel system and the audio mix was never changed from their cinema release
Anything I watch in my TV that sounds awful sounds just fine out of my 5.1 PC because I suddenly have access to more channels where the audio is actually out (dialogue looooves to get mixed to center only for some reason)
It's not like the audio mix isn't shit in theatres anyways.
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It would be nice if TVs came with a proper sound system, but since they don't, you should factor audio into the cost of your home entertainment system. That's like going to a restaurant and ordering food without a drink.
Oh I'm not even just talking about TVs. I'm talking about headphones too. I've had perfectly good headphones of decent quality that have experienced this issue with movies in particular. Everything else is fine. Games, videos, music all sound great, but some movies are just balanced so poorly. It's a shared computer space so it's not really the place for one person to have a whole sound system just to watch poorly balanced movies.
