You look a bit skinny, son.
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@MattW03@lemmy.ca @fedimemes@feddit.uk
To which extent does this graph consider non-Lemmy users interacting with other non-Lemmy users through Lemmy communities as "active Lemmy users"?
I mean, I'm right now interacting with Lemmy using Sharkey. Similarly, I notice many Mastodon and Piefed users interacting with Lemmy communities. And that's where my question comes in: would all of us count as "Lemmy users" according to the methodology behind that graph? -
No, its the fact that the same couple of people post across all communitys and drown everything else. I wouldn't be opposed to a daily limit of posts, just to bring the noise down. The only reason i still come here is for the rare, once a week, quality post.
That's not logistically possible given each instance has its own rules.
But also, at the same time it seems self-evident to me that most of the 40k people here can talk about politics. Most are from the Anglosphere and the daily goings-on are relevant to them in some way. It seems also evident to me that less people here can talk about fishing, or baking because it's of less interest to them. Reddit, by comparison, has a much larger population.
I'm also looking at /all/ and seeing a variety of names.
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Just FYI, the number may be up a bit more than we are seeing due to how the website pulls its numbers.
There's a lot of instances that put anti ai/ crawling tech in front of their instances. As well as instances that are no longer sharing stats due to ai activity.
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@MattW03@lemmy.ca @fedimemes@feddit.uk
To which extent does this graph consider non-Lemmy users interacting with other non-Lemmy users through Lemmy communities as "active Lemmy users"?
I mean, I'm right now interacting with Lemmy using Sharkey. Similarly, I notice many Mastodon and Piefed users interacting with Lemmy communities. And that's where my question comes in: would all of us count as "Lemmy users" according to the methodology behind that graph?And piefed/mbin/kbin ect...
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That's not logistically possible given each instance has its own rules.
But also, at the same time it seems self-evident to me that most of the 40k people here can talk about politics. Most are from the Anglosphere and the daily goings-on are relevant to them in some way. It seems also evident to me that less people here can talk about fishing, or baking because it's of less interest to them. Reddit, by comparison, has a much larger population.
I'm also looking at /all/ and seeing a variety of names.
Stamets, byteonbikes, mtz, lady butterfly, track_shovel.
When you start seeing it, you can't unsee it.
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Stamets, byteonbikes, mtz, lady butterfly, track_shovel.
When you start seeing it, you can't unsee it.
Yeah I see them. I also see some other names too. Small places need active 'power posters'.
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No. It says lemmy only so no piefed or mbin
Last I checked, Piefed had only a fraction of the users Lemmy had.
I have an account in a Piefed instance and it's awesome (especially if they add image galleries before Lemmy does), but I don't think it would meaningfully move the graph.
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Last I checked, Piefed had only a fraction of the users Lemmy had.
I have an account in a Piefed instance and it's awesome (especially if they add image galleries before Lemmy does), but I don't think it would meaningfully move the graph.
Yes, it does - but you have to account for the users on there if you're measuring the fediverse activity in general. And Mbin. Combined they'd add about 2.2k extra users this month.
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- point people to one instance you like instead of a general website
- on Piefed, when people register, they can either join indeed the instance they're on, or have a look at other options: https://piefed.zip/auth/instance_chooser
Having to explain federation is kind of the issue in my opinion. This idea wouldn't be to remove the normal sign up process, it would be a way to side step it entirely for those who don't care about the technology aspect of it and just want to be part of the community.
If you want to pick your own instance or suggest one, that would still exist. This would just be an alternative. It would also help to avoid everyone gravitating towards the largest instance, because it would try to load balance people automatically.
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This doesn't seem to be hoping for unlimited growth but rather that is has stagnated and is even falling. That can kill a community especially when it is as small as it is
Anecdotally, it doesn't feel like the experience is contracting, or part of a shrinking community. It's worth asking what the data means, and whether it's bad, but there are definitely other reasonable factors too. Users from interoperable platforms like mastodon and piefed, individual people using fewer accounts, or even fewer lurkers, could be responsible for a good chunk of the data.
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Having to explain federation is kind of the issue in my opinion. This idea wouldn't be to remove the normal sign up process, it would be a way to side step it entirely for those who don't care about the technology aspect of it and just want to be part of the community.
If you want to pick your own instance or suggest one, that would still exist. This would just be an alternative. It would also help to avoid everyone gravitating towards the largest instance, because it would try to load balance people automatically.
Having to explain federation is kind of the issue in my opinion.
I don't, nowadays, I just point to piefed.zip
This would just be an alternative
The issue is that there aren't really instances that are similar enough to be considered interchangeable. They all have their specificity, be it admin style, defederation, downvotes enabled or disabled, front-ends available, etc.
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absolute win tho?
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Last I checked, Piefed had only a fraction of the users Lemmy had.
I have an account in a Piefed instance and it's awesome (especially if they add image galleries before Lemmy does), but I don't think it would meaningfully move the graph.
I mean with how many instances have launched a piefed server the last few months and with how small Lemmy is in the first place even a thousand or so users switching would explain some of that slight downward slope at the end.
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Unlimited growth is capitalist mindset. Stability and community are what we value here.
Yeah. And we don't need to attract the MOST people, just the BEST people
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Just FYI, the number may be up a bit more than we are seeing due to how the website pulls its numbers.
There's a lot of instances that put anti ai/ crawling tech in front of their instances. As well as instances that are no longer sharing stats due to ai activity.
The numbers come from
/nodeinfo/2.1(may be different on different softwares, check.well-known/nodeinfoto find the endpoint).E.g., https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/nodeinfo/2.1 is the one for my instance.
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The numbers come from
/nodeinfo/2.1(may be different on different softwares, check.well-known/nodeinfoto find the endpoint).E.g., https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/nodeinfo/2.1 is the one for my instance.
nice. Yeah Ive seen a bit on the API side. And Ive come across a couple that dont federate/have it behind arubus, etc...etc...
Most dont but a couple do. I wish I could find another...but of course now that im looking I cant find the instances.
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Thank you for your service. I agree with you on the issue, but am a bit afraid that if more people onboard here, the threads will be just the same reddit hivemind circlejerk like ”i also choose this guys wife” etc. But since there is no karma to gain here I wish it will stay like this.
Yep. I agree with this. Re-creating Reddit at the same scale just brings all the same problems. I like that federation means smaller more localised communities that can be connected (or not). I get that it’s not what everyone wants or is used to, and that’s okay.
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Stamets, byteonbikes, mtz, lady butterfly, track_shovel.
When you start seeing it, you can't unsee it.
Block them if you don't like their posts ?
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No, its the fact that the same couple of people post across all communitys and drown everything else. I wouldn't be opposed to a daily limit of posts, just to bring the noise down. The only reason i still come here is for the rare, once a week, quality post.
Use "scaled" to see more or smaller communities ?
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This is actually pretty good user retention. Most platforms bleed way more users after a surge in sign ups (eg Mastodon, Pixelfed, Threads, Bluesky).
