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There should a seperate place for US news so we all can ignore it🙎‍♂️

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  • M mourningdove@lemmy.zip

    Is the US not a part of the world? And why would US News not belong in News? I’m confused.

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    nikls94@lemmy.world
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    #68

    Because of the sheer amount of US-Americans, we curated seperate places for them, only containing US-American news, where they don’t mess up the rest.

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    • M mourningdove@lemmy.zip

      Is the US not a part of the world? And why would US News not belong in News? I’m confused.

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      captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      #69

      There are people who are stupid enough to pretend the goings on of the world's only superpower isn't relevant to their lives, as they scroll Facebook on their iPhones within the combat radius of an F-35.

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      • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.comE eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        https://lemmy.world/comment/20024446

        And here's PJ slandering you because he knows you can't read him.

        Pug is shouting into a void at us, still making shit up and pretending to be on the left as he hates anarchists, communists, and anyone vaguely against the status quo. Gotta love how he's just so normal.

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        pugjesus@lemmy.world
        wrote last edited by
        #70

        And here’s PJ slandering you because he knows you can’t read him.

        I'm sorry that dbzer0 banned me for pointing out their tolerance and denial of genocide and sexual assault. Sorry that you think opposing genocide is 'turbolib' behavior, but I guess locking arms together when one of the community is downvoted - sorry, confronted with bad behavior - is cop anarchist praxis.

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        • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

          Such places do exist though? e.g. !politics@piefed.social says:

          Any politics anywhere in the world. Inevitably it’ll be 99% US stuff, but that’s not a rule.

          And there's !usa@midwest.social:

          Welcome to !usa@midwest.social, where you can share and converse about the different things happening all over/about the United States.

          And !usnews@beehaw.org:

          News about and pertaining to the United States and its people.

          There also used to be !usa@ponder.cat and !news@dubvee.org, although both were on instances that no longer exist.

          Also, "World" communities outside of Lemmy.World do a MUCH better job of allowing USA news but not letting it dominate the feeds - e.g. !news@beehaw.org.

          You may want to broaden your horizons beyond only those large communities on Lemmy.World - especially since those subscriber stats are fake (the Users / month are likely better but the Subscriber counts in particular include accounts of people who tried Lemmy for a brief time before noping back to Reddit, never to return). An analogy: leave the toxic sheeple to argue over how to fix their Windows machines, while you embrace the beauty of learning to use Linux - it takes some slightest of effort on your part, but you will be glad that you did.

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          garbagio@lemmy.zip
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          Its so strange. Like let's be real here: Even if Americans weren't the plurality of Lemmy users (we are), America is also literally at the top of the modern global hegemony. I don't like it, I most certainly don't like what we do with it, but it's still true. Emanuel Macron does some dumb shit, it rocks the EU markets, maybe drops some forecasts for the sociopolitical climates of some EU nations and the nations they still squat on (again, not defending, just stating the reality that there are still African nations paying France for their independence). If a senator here so much as gets out of bed wrong, an entire chunk of the current global order could be thrown into upheaval. Orban praises Putin, sucks for Hungary. Trump praises Putin, it sucks for literally the entire planet.

          You can be mad that we're in that position; I most certainly am. I truly believe the world would have a better chance at improving if we weren't. But until we aren't, yeah, our news is global news. You can be sick of hearing about it, you can even predict it, but that doesn't make it any less impactful or worth knowing.

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          • M mourningdove@lemmy.zip

            Is the US not a part of the world? And why would US News not belong in News? I’m confused.

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            echodot@feddit.uk
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            #72

            Do US doesn't think it's part of the world, it thinks it's its own different world that only contains the US.

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            • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works

              There are people who are stupid enough to pretend the goings on of the world's only superpower isn't relevant to their lives, as they scroll Facebook on their iPhones within the combat radius of an F-35.

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              echodot@feddit.uk
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              #73

              I'm also within range of a North Korean nuclear missile, what's your point?

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              • E echodot@feddit.uk

                I'm also within range of a North Korean nuclear missile, what's your point?

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                captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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                #74

                The difference is, F-35s work.

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                • M mourningdove@lemmy.zip

                  Is the US not a part of the world? And why would US News not belong in News? I’m confused.

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                  biotin7@sopuli.xyz
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                  #75

                  Actually USA is a pocket dimension

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                  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works

                    The difference is, F-35s work.

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                    echodot@feddit.uk
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                    #76

                    That's right, ignore any inconvenient truths. If you don't like it, then it mustn't work.

                    Is your entire world view centred on the idea that the rest of the planet is essentially in the stone age and then the US air force is just a flying above it all? I remind you that the US hasn't won a single war in 80 years.

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                    • E echodot@feddit.uk

                      That's right, ignore any inconvenient truths. If you don't like it, then it mustn't work.

                      Is your entire world view centred on the idea that the rest of the planet is essentially in the stone age and then the US air force is just a flying above it all? I remind you that the US hasn't won a single war in 80 years.

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                      captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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                      #77

                      Must be why North Korea has the best selling fighter jet in the world.

                      ...oh wait.

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                      • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.comE eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        https://lemmy.world/comment/20024446

                        And here's PJ slandering you because he knows you can't read him.

                        Pug is shouting into a void at us, still making shit up and pretending to be on the left as he hates anarchists, communists, and anyone vaguely against the status quo. Gotta love how he's just so normal.

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                        stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                        wrote last edited by stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                        #78

                        I also cannot see him because I had his LW account blocked on LW. I literally could not care less about him. He doesn't matter. Would like to stay oblivious about him, thanks. I don't need his whiny updates being hand delivered. I appreciate the heads up but I just really don't care about the dude.

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                        • H hatorade@lemmy.world

                          What else do you expect from TrickDacy? They hate anyone they made up in their head as the bad guys.

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                          trickdacy@lemmy.world
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                          #79

                          Pretty weird you used an alt to try and help build the narrative that I "hate" everyone. Ironic considering all I attempted to do here was mildly scold someone for outright saying they hate an entire nation of humans.

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                          • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.comE eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            You can't expect Trick to read! He hates you for being right and his favorite power tripping bastard being proven wrong.

                            Edit: Because Trick is blocked due to being a troll:

                            • No I don't have an alt you fucking weirdo.
                            • No I'm not a bot because I have a memory of active users. "Everyone I don't like is a bot!" Is the argument of people with no point in life.
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                            trickdacy@lemmy.world
                            wrote last edited by trickdacy@lemmy.world
                            #80

                            And a quick look at your comment history reveals that your favorite, maybe only, activity on Lemmy is to single out users and act like you know them to be, personally, bad people. Pretty odd. Example:

                            As a. FYI, Phillip lied when he said he never knew about PugJesus, when he's had accounts interact with him on communities he's modded and talked before. He'll feign ignorance and being a smartass when everyone with an once of reality knows his bullshit.

                            You some kind of weird bot experiment?

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                            • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works

                              There are people who are stupid enough to pretend the goings on of the world's only superpower isn't relevant to their lives, as they scroll Facebook on their iPhones within the combat radius of an F-35.

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                              bloefz@lemmy.world
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                              #81

                              Those iPhones made in China you mean?

                              America is not the only superpower and well on its way to no longer being the biggest one. Trump complains a lot about providing defense capability for Europe and other places but in return for that America got influence which is what made it a superpower.

                              Now that people are no longer trusting the US that influence will be reduced. Europe won't be the next superpower but probably China will be. I'm not very happy with that but as a European I don't really want us to be a superpower either.

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                              • B bloefz@lemmy.world

                                Those iPhones made in China you mean?

                                America is not the only superpower and well on its way to no longer being the biggest one. Trump complains a lot about providing defense capability for Europe and other places but in return for that America got influence which is what made it a superpower.

                                Now that people are no longer trusting the US that influence will be reduced. Europe won't be the next superpower but probably China will be. I'm not very happy with that but as a European I don't really want us to be a superpower either.

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                                captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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                                China, the nation that is good at doing what western nations tell them how to do.

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                                • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works

                                  Must be why North Korea has the best selling fighter jet in the world.

                                  ...oh wait.

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                                  echodot@feddit.uk
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                                  #83

                                  So you don't believe that North Korea has the potential to be a threat to the United States? If so then what about China, are they a threat, Russia is certainly a threat l, there's a whole period of history of America considering Russia to be a threat.

                                  If they're threats to you then they must also be superpowers, stands to reason. So there are a lot of super powers, and yet all I ever hear about is the US. Odd that.

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                                  • G garbagio@lemmy.zip

                                    Its so strange. Like let's be real here: Even if Americans weren't the plurality of Lemmy users (we are), America is also literally at the top of the modern global hegemony. I don't like it, I most certainly don't like what we do with it, but it's still true. Emanuel Macron does some dumb shit, it rocks the EU markets, maybe drops some forecasts for the sociopolitical climates of some EU nations and the nations they still squat on (again, not defending, just stating the reality that there are still African nations paying France for their independence). If a senator here so much as gets out of bed wrong, an entire chunk of the current global order could be thrown into upheaval. Orban praises Putin, sucks for Hungary. Trump praises Putin, it sucks for literally the entire planet.

                                    You can be mad that we're in that position; I most certainly am. I truly believe the world would have a better chance at improving if we weren't. But until we aren't, yeah, our news is global news. You can be sick of hearing about it, you can even predict it, but that doesn't make it any less impactful or worth knowing.

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                                    echodot@feddit.uk
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                                    It's interesting that the US claims to be the top of the heap economically and yet much of the cutting edge science being done at the moment in fusion is coming out of Europe and China. I don't believe the US's contributed anything to that sector of science. It's the same across the board, the largest particle accelerator in the world, in Europe, the largest telescope in the world, in China, the second largest been Arecibo and that was in Puerto Rico, and was so unappreciated it was allowed to rot, not exactly a glowing endorsement for US science.

                                    Every time this is brought up somebody always goes yeah but we've landed on the moon, and that's the point really, US's last great contribution to the world was over a generation ago and the organisation that did it is being defunded. America was one great.

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                                    • R rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works

                                      It's not their fault they're taught that they are the centre of the whole world.

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                                      kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      Considering a lot of OPs posts are about America and it's politics, I'm wondering if they down vote their own posts.

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                                      • E echodot@feddit.uk

                                        So you don't believe that North Korea has the potential to be a threat to the United States? If so then what about China, are they a threat, Russia is certainly a threat l, there's a whole period of history of America considering Russia to be a threat.

                                        If they're threats to you then they must also be superpowers, stands to reason. So there are a lot of super powers, and yet all I ever hear about is the US. Odd that.

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                                        captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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                                        No I don't believe that North Korea has the potential to be a threat to the United States. I've seen North Korea help Russia threaten Ukraine. How's that going for them. Europe is currently pissing themselves wondering what they can do against Russia without America's help, that's been kinda funny to watch.

                                        We took the Soviet Union seriously. There's a difference: The Soviet Union had Ukraine in it. Turns out they were the brains of the operation.

                                        As for China...I think I'm gonna live long enough to see that fight.

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                                        • G garbagio@lemmy.zip

                                          Its so strange. Like let's be real here: Even if Americans weren't the plurality of Lemmy users (we are), America is also literally at the top of the modern global hegemony. I don't like it, I most certainly don't like what we do with it, but it's still true. Emanuel Macron does some dumb shit, it rocks the EU markets, maybe drops some forecasts for the sociopolitical climates of some EU nations and the nations they still squat on (again, not defending, just stating the reality that there are still African nations paying France for their independence). If a senator here so much as gets out of bed wrong, an entire chunk of the current global order could be thrown into upheaval. Orban praises Putin, sucks for Hungary. Trump praises Putin, it sucks for literally the entire planet.

                                          You can be mad that we're in that position; I most certainly am. I truly believe the world would have a better chance at improving if we weren't. But until we aren't, yeah, our news is global news. You can be sick of hearing about it, you can even predict it, but that doesn't make it any less impactful or worth knowing.

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                                          openstars@piefed.social
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                                          I would have naively thought that Europeans would be the plurality? But if you mean from any one particular nation then that makes sense.

                                          Part of what the Threadiverse provides is the ability to make for ourselves whatever we want - and if someone wants to make a community that showcases solely news from within the USA while excluding all external news, or vice versa, then they can do that? The creator + mod can do whatever they want, subject only to admin rules of the instance that they choose, and if they spin up their own then they can even adjust those.

                                          So even if they "should not" want that, nevertheless if people did want something different, then the power of the Threadiverse provides that ability? Of course it is a bit different to demand that someone else go through all the effort - and likely be doxxed and receive literal death threats for their trouble - but that's a separate issue.

                                          So my point above was that exactly what OP asked - "There should a seperate place for US news" - already exists. I agree with you though that OP was not terribly precise in asking for whatever it is that they actually wanted: for !news@lemmy.world to feature news from outside the US? (the current posts that show up on it right now using the default sorting method of Active are things like: "Thieves steal crown jewels in 4 minutes from Louvre Museum", "Trump suggests US will buy Argentinian beef to bring down prices for American consumers", "Greenland chooses French satellites over Elon Musk’s Starlink", etc. - I am not saying that USA-internal news does not exist there obviously just that it is only one part of the news that that specific community chooses to host, which is their decision but nobody needs to be bound by that as they can always just seek out different communities that meet their needs better?) Maybe they want communities to exist for other places - like !uk_politics@feddit.uk, or !australianpolitics@aussie.zone, or !politics@lemmy.nz, or !canadapolitics@lemmy.ca, or !indianpolitics@lemy.lol, or !bulgarianpolitics@lemmy.world, or !politics@monyet.cc, or more amalgamation-type ones such as !europepolitics@feddit.org, !europepolitics@sh.itjust.works, or !geopol@sopuli.xyz.

                                          Heck, there is even a community literally called !notuspolitics@lemmy.world that says specifically: "This is the place for anything but US politics." People can do whatever they want - note that it may require some amount of effor though.

                                          And I need to add that I am just laughing here over on PieFed. We have had user & post flairs for half a year now already, merging of comments across all cross-posts for slightly longer, and we've even had features such as the "Topic/Feeds" that combine different sources of news across multiple communities, and keyword filtering, for well over a year now. So very much of the difficulty in using Lemmy stems from the technology behind very behind that of Reddit, as if that kind of fully-featured thing could be developed from scratch, plus add ActivityPub integration allowing federation, and an API, all for free, in a short amount of time, plus having to do so using a highly niche language such as Rust. But Rimu did it, and post flairs and/or keyword filtering seems like exactly the kind of thing that would give OP exactly what they wanted: the ability to block out all posts of a certain type that they do not enjoy seeing, while still not having to do any work at all to either moderate a community (especially about a heavily contentious subject matter such as this!) or to create one or even to move to a different one. Which is why this post reads to me more like schadenfreude than anything else. So... okay then, ignore all the efforts being done to improve the Threadiverse, and rather simply complain, if that's what OP wants, I guess?

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