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  • L leave_it_blank@lemmy.world

    IDE - The precursor to SATA? I don't get it...

    Edit: Learn something new every day! Thank you!

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    neatnit@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I never knew it used to be a storage standard. Turns out it was renamed to PATA at some point.

    As someone else said, IDE refers to development software like Visual Studio, Eclipse, and others. Nowadays a lot of text editors (VS Code/ium, Sublime Text, and many others) come with enough features to pass as an IDE too, but some people still somehow differentiate between them.

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    • M magic_lobster_party@fedia.io

      Maybe old IDEs. Like Eclipse 10-20 years ago.

      Modern IDEs don’t really have these issues as frequently.

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      simulation6@sopuli.xyz
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      Have you tried modern Eclipse on Wayland? Save often!

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        Have you tried modern Eclipse on Wayland? Save often!

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        magic_lobster_party@fedia.io
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        I have not. Last time I used Eclipse (maybe 10 years ago) I got so frustrated it prompted me to learn Vim.

        I’m currently mostly using IntelliJ these days.

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          thorry84@feddit.nl
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          I hate how IDEs with error checking check the code at every character. Like my dude, we got this shit right with text editors having spell check back in 1997. Wait just a moment before checking please. All the time when I'm typing the editor freaks the fuck out, this is wrong, this is wrong, here is an error, wtf is this supposed to mean? And then when I type the ) or whatever, all is well. Just give me a freaking second to work and think.

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          • T thorry84@feddit.nl

            I hate how IDEs with error checking check the code at every character. Like my dude, we got this shit right with text editors having spell check back in 1997. Wait just a moment before checking please. All the time when I'm typing the editor freaks the fuck out, this is wrong, this is wrong, here is an error, wtf is this supposed to mean? And then when I type the ) or whatever, all is well. Just give me a freaking second to work and think.

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            powerofm@lemmy.ca
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            I'd say it's probably happening because the syntax parser runs every character to be able to provide auto complete, and error tracking is a part of that system. I wonder if there's a plugin that introduces some smart delay between when the error is detected and when it's displayed.

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              dwindling7373@feddit.it
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              No, they are not a flat rectagle creature with arms and legs.

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                atro_city@fedia.io
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                The fediverse is just so geeky. I don't know what this means. The wikipedia article kinda makes sense, but there's a lot of terminology in there. It seems like an advanced editor with many features - like a bat-mobile for programmers, but it keeps breaking down?

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                • D dwindling7373@feddit.it

                  No, they are not a flat rectagle creature with arms and legs.

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                  lembot_0002@lemm.ee
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                  FlatIDEners think otherwise. You are just a conformist not willing to check the facts. IDE is flat! Booo!

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                    skip0110@lemm.ee
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                    Visual Studio has these issues daily.

                    Ten years ago VS was awesome. In the last 2 years, all they added is AI crap and every other feature got more buggy.

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                      The fediverse is just so geeky. I don't know what this means. The wikipedia article kinda makes sense, but there's a lot of terminology in there. It seems like an advanced editor with many features - like a bat-mobile for programmers, but it keeps breaking down?

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                      stormdelay@sh.itjust.works
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                      Basically yeah, it's a text editor with a lot of features geared towards making programing easier, e.g. an equivalent of a spell checker but for code. Like any software, some IDEs/features can be either poorly designed or unstable, which can be aggravating when you spend your day working with it.

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                        Basically yeah, it's a text editor with a lot of features geared towards making programing easier, e.g. an equivalent of a spell checker but for code. Like any software, some IDEs/features can be either poorly designed or unstable, which can be aggravating when you spend your day working with it.

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                        atro_city@fedia.io
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                        Are IDEs the microsoft word of programming?

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                          darkcloud@lemmy.world
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                          Unreal Engine certainly is.

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                          • T taldennz@lemmy.nz

                            No. Unless there's a bad update... Every few years.

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                            froh42@lemmy.world
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                            Found the IntelliJ (or friends) user.

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                            • M magic_lobster_party@fedia.io

                              I have not. Last time I used Eclipse (maybe 10 years ago) I got so frustrated it prompted me to learn Vim.

                              I’m currently mostly using IntelliJ these days.

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                              alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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                              The only issue I've ever had with Eclipse is updating it. It's only gotten better in the past 2 years or so. The rest of the time upgrading was a complete pain in the ass. Just about every time I ended up giving up and reinstalling from scratch.

                              Well, the one other thing that annoys me is not having decent themeing. I use a third party extension and while it does help, there are parts of the IDE that you still can't customize so if you want a dark mode you have to deal with parta that aren't ideal.

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                                umbrella@lemmy.ml
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                                programmer vegeta is having a bad time

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                                  levzzz@lemmy.world
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                                  Intellij is sometimes like that, e.g. I hate not being able to change my gradle cache folder globally, instead of per project

                                  Sometimes it stops showing the ui and just runs in the background

                                  Sometimes it fails to git pull and the rollback menu is broken

                                  Sometimes the hot reload bugs out and it recompiles 1000+ classes

                                  But i still love it

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                                    Visual Studio has these issues daily.

                                    Ten years ago VS was awesome. In the last 2 years, all they added is AI crap and every other feature got more buggy.

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                                    domeguy@lemmy.world
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                                    Your experience is far from universal. Working with actual code files, visual studio works very good.

                                    Mix in XAML blazor, however...

                                    (Note that both file formats are abstractions from which C# classes are.generated...)

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                                      droechai@lemm.ee
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                                      I have a faint memory of working with Eclipse but shelved it due to making Java even slower than my dog walking towards his shower. Is it still alive and viable?

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                                        scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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                                        Are you even a real programmer if you haven't fixed a prod critical but in notepad++ because your ide won't open for whatever reason?

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                                        • L lukstru@lemmy.world

                                          vim evangelists incoming although they are on panel 3

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                                          mnbychoice@midwest.social
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                                          One doesn't know how to code if they cannot spell the whole word.

                                          (Turn off autocomplete for a day and test your actual knowledge.)

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