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  • A asteriskeverything@lemmy.world

    Body shaming sucks no matter what.
    And IMO making fun of penis size is toxic masculinity.
    That said it is speaking in a language that they understand and use, we have to stoop to speak to their base. I hate all of it :')

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    scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Mmmm... Good take, but I don't think we need to stoop to speak to their base. I might just be fucking outright wrong. I also hate all of it :')

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    • N nyamlae@lemmy.world

      Context doesn't justify bodyshaming, full stop.

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      scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      #116

      Agreeing with you.

      Justifying bodyshaming is just like justified racism - it's not the right tool and shows that not doing it is conditional and that you are like that and only not, just to be seen as nice. It literally means you're a shitty person who is just being politically correct to not be be seen as politically incorrect.

      It literally means that you are a terrible person deep down inside, and are only not that way outwardly to get karma points. You have learned nothing. Forever a padawan, shrouded in manipulative behavior to get what you want.

      Performative, small trash.

      Disgusting and pathetic.

      Shame.

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      • K karl@programming.dev

        This is almost the same thing as claiming to not be homophobic and then using "gay" as an insult.

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        scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Not almost.

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        • L lunarul@lemmy.world

          This is Cyanide & Happiness. They're in the body shame everyone camp.

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          scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          #118

          So pro status quo. Got it.

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          • F flickerby@lemm.ee

            Like 4 and a half is average I'm pretty sure. Lemme Google. Okay Google says 5.1 but close enough I guess. It's WAY less than porn obviously and WAY less than women think. I have a strong hunch that this is because most men they've been with have lied about their size so to them a 4" is a 6" is an 8" etc. There was this green text I saw posted here today/yesterday about a dude with 5.5 saying "don't expect anything special" and his girl freaking out so this backs up said theory.

            Bottom line it doesn't matter. The vaginal canal is like 4-5 inches and the g spot is just a couple inches in so you can do good no matter what you're packing. A lot of women don't like you poking their cervix. Also I have it on good authority some women prefer people without penises and they seem pretty satisfied too.

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            scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            There are all kinds of people out there 👍

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            • N nyamlae@lemmy.world

              "Bro" I am a gay man. I love small penises. This post is reinforcing stigma around small penises, by associating them with white nationalism.

              It's weird to make jokes about them. People don't need to make up for having a small penis, because it's not a flaw, so there is literally no basis for this joke other than toxic masculinity.

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              scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              #120

              I am a size queen. I also recognize that there are all kinds of different people out there and that there is no shame in having a small pp. Sometimes, even for me, they're sexy and great fun.

              Post is problematic and people iit defending contextual toxicity are children to me. Some of them are quite petulant and are doubling down on their toxicity and showing it.

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              • S stebo02@sopuli.xyz

                who's out there comparing their dicks to other dudes to know if they're below or above average

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                imhotep@lemmy.world
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                I'm comparing to find out if I'm a white nationalist

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                  nthavoc@lemmy.today
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                  Jesus christ these comments. Guys, it's a dick joke, calm your tits.

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                  • T throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works

                    Shaming people for "dick size" is support for the patriarchy and therefore supporting misogyny.

                    Fuck this toxic masculinity. This is literally feeding into the alt-right pipeline.

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                    jcbazpx@lemmy.world
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                    The word you were looking for is misandry.

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                    • N nyamlae@lemmy.world

                      That's a good point, and explains the existence of this comic. They're anti-WN but still have some regressive attitudes.

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                      scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                      I'd argue it's less regressive and more preemptive. I'm a strong believer that people can grow and be better at any age.

                      Even Nazis. However, the energy and time and resources and risks to do so for THEM is almost never worth it for the small glimmer of a chance, which is why the saying is "the only good Nazi...", because to get there, it's so far evolved in that direction, you're so far corrupted, that it takes a Herculean effort to bring you back to a functional society.

                      Like, it's kind of like deep depression, honestly. The stark fundamental differences and the effects and risks, though, are why, ethically, we, generally, treat depression and eliminate Nazis. Not always. Not in every circumstance. But we must at least say so, specifically, due to the nature of each.

                      A wild, rouge thought appeared just now: what if we flipped that? What if we threatened to kill depressed people and preached treating nazism? ...Fascinating. I do have more thinking to do.

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                      • E entwine413@lemm.ee

                        It's called a joke

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                        scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                        There are such things as racist jokes. They are also awful.

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                        • A agrivar@lemmy.world

                          I'd wager it's from your missing or atrophied sense of humor.

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                          scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          Do you think women are generally dumber than men?

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                          • lena@gregtech.euL lena@gregtech.eu

                            pc

                            🖥️?

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                            scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            They mean masc off.

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                            • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL libertylizard@slrpnk.net

                              A more serious interpretation is that men might try to compensate for their insecurity by being angry and hateful in an act of over-performative masculinity.

                              Also, it’s just belittling white nationalists because they’re obviously losers and it’s fun to do so.

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                              jcbazpx@lemmy.world
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                              Yes, because everyone knows small pp is much worse than advocating for the destruction of ~90% of the people on earth.

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                              • D derisionconsulting@lemmy.ca

                                "Masculinity" isn't toxic on its own, "Toxic Masculinity" is a specific thing on its own.

                                It's using the measuring stick of being "masculine enough" or "enough of a man" to harm someone else.

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                                jcbazpx@lemmy.world
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                                "Masculinity" isn't toxic on its own,

                                There are many would disagree with that.

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                                • S stratoscaster@lemmy.world

                                  I think that's the reason why these kinds of derogatory statements are made. It's because masculinity is the sole identity of the fascist (aside from nationalism). Obviously, if you have masculinity be your main ideology, you are a problematic person.

                                  E.g. calling the proud boys "gravy seals" doesn't make me upset, because I don't care if I'm fat or not, and I don't really subscribe to machiavellianism. They, internally, do and being mocked is an affront to their ideology.

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                                  nalivai@lemmy.world
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                                  calling the proud boys "gravy seals" doesn't make me upset

                                  Good for you. However, there are people who were bullied for being larger than average their wholr live, and this shit reinforces the idea that being fat is something bad and should be mocked.

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                                  • A agrivar@lemmy.world

                                    I'd wager it's from your missing or atrophied sense of humor.

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                                    seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    #131

                                    Maybe it's just because I'm mentally ill, but if this is what makes regular people laugh then I'm glad to not be regular

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                                      toottootcomingthru@lemmy.world
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                                      Dudes getting upset at 🦐 dick jokes will never stop being funny lol.

                                      Nooo misandry, this feeds small dick men into the alt right pipeline nooo body shaming we have to take the higher moral ground nooo don't make small dick jokes guys.

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                                      • N nyamlae@lemmy.world

                                        But, like everything, context matters and I believe directing harm towards “bad” people is “good”

                                        That's not what bodyshaming does, though.

                                        If you punch or kill a nazi, that harms the nazi.

                                        If you joke about nazis compensating for having a small dick, then you are reinforcing the idea that small dicks are bad and something that needs to be compensated for. This harms people with small penises.

                                        In addition, lots of nazis will have average or big dicks, and will find this kind of post laughable and irrelevant. It's not even harming them.

                                        So, this post mainly stigmatizes men with a certain body type, and not nazis. This is not good praxis.

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                                        toottootcomingthru@lemmy.world
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                                        praxis

                                        See people with big dicks don't use words like that.

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                                        • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE explodicle@sh.itjust.works

                                          Back when the internet sucked, I was young and insecure. So I just asked the girls I slept with how I stacked up against the other guys.

                                          It's amazing how being young and good looking can make up for being creepy and weird.

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                                          stebo02@sopuli.xyz
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                                          being young and good looking can make up for being creepy and weird

                                          sounds dope, can't relate

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