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    hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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    Since when did masculinity become toxic lol

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      dan00@lemm.ee
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      As usual i read too much into stupid shit. Yes, this is toxic masculinity just as much as punching someone in the face. But, like everything, context matters and I believe directing harm towards “bad” people is “good” (aka punching a nazi is good, even preferable). My granpa (a declared fash) would shield behind the “no violence” stand to support the most heinous shit and my point always has been that somebody need to shoot a nazi eventually. That guy would be “bad” for killing a person but we need those guys. At some point kindness doesn’t cut it anymore.

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      • T throwawaypermanente@sh.itjust.works

        Questioning someone's lived experience of misogyny is literally white nationalism. I diagnose you with micropenis.

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        gmtom@lemmy.world
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        The worst part is genuinely can't tell if this is serious or not.

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          callyral@pawb.social
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          I don't understand this comic. White nationalism and penis size are unrelated, as far as I'm aware.

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          • S surewhynotlem@lemmy.world

            It's the patriarchy that defined large dicks as more masculine and "good". You think "small penis" is an insult because you were taught that it was.

            Fun fact. The ancient Romans thought a large penis was less desirable. You could mock someone for being big.

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            gmtom@lemmy.world
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            Sure, I would agree with that, but just because it's root cause is the patriarchy does not mean that something that hurts men is actually misogyny.

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            • callyral@pawb.socialC callyral@pawb.social

              I don't understand this comic. White nationalism and penis size are unrelated, as far as I'm aware.

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              entwine413@lemm.ee
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              It's called a joke

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              • S stebo02@sopuli.xyz

                who's out there comparing their dicks to other dudes to know if they're below or above average

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                entwine413@lemm.ee
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                #60

                Google is a thing, and the average penis size is a fairly well documented static. .

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                  hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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                  Liberals must have huge elephant penises that nobody wants to fuck with.

                  Centrism is where it's at.

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                  • E entwine413@lemm.ee

                    It's called a joke

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                    callyral@pawb.social
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                    #62

                    Thanks for clarifying that

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                    • callyral@pawb.socialC callyral@pawb.social

                      I don't understand this comic. White nationalism and penis size are unrelated, as far as I'm aware.

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                      libertylizard@slrpnk.net
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                      A more serious interpretation is that men might try to compensate for their insecurity by being angry and hateful in an act of over-performative masculinity.

                      Also, it’s just belittling white nationalists because they’re obviously losers and it’s fun to do so.

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                      • H hellsfire29@lemmy.world

                        Liberals must have huge elephant penises that nobody wants to fuck with.

                        Centrism is where it's at.

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                        retrograde@lemmy.world
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                        #64

                        ugh

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                        • H hellsfire29@lemmy.world

                          Since when did masculinity become toxic lol

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                          derisionconsulting@lemmy.ca
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                          "Masculinity" isn't toxic on its own, "Toxic Masculinity" is a specific thing on its own.

                          It's using the measuring stick of being "masculine enough" or "enough of a man" to harm someone else.

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                          • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

                            The same people comparing their cars, bank accounts, houses, even their dogs and schools their children go to. to decide who is ""alpha"" and who is poor. Capitalist religion-induced issues.

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                            0ops@lemm.ee
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                            Ngl, I frankly kinda doubt that who owns the means of production has any bearing on an individual's self-consciousness regarding their penis size

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                              Ngl, I frankly kinda doubt that who owns the means of production has any bearing on an individual's self-consciousness regarding their penis size

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                              gsus4@mander.xyz
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                              Do you think the same about makeup? It is so easy to play with men's insecurities too...

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                                who's out there comparing their dicks to other dudes to know if they're below or above average

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                                rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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                                I would volunteer to look at a bunch of penises...for science of course.

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                                • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

                                  The same people comparing their cars, bank accounts, houses, even their dogs and schools their children go to. to decide who is ""alpha"" and who is poor. Capitalist religion-induced issues.

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                                  rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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                                  We had comparative wealth inequality for thousands to tens of thousands of years before capitalism.

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                                    We had comparative wealth inequality for thousands to tens of thousands of years before capitalism.

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                                    gsus4@mander.xyz
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                                    Yes, but you didnt have status anxiety (i.e. if you can become anything you want if you work hard enough, why aren't you ""alpha"" yet?) and the prosperity gospel: "you deserve to be poor because you don't hustle enough at the altar of crapitalism".

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                                    • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

                                      Do you think the same about makeup? It is so easy to play with men's insecurities too...

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                                      rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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                                      We had makeup thousands of years before capitalism.

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                                      • N nyamlae@lemmy.world

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                                        Leftists bodyshaming men to criticize their fascism is some real regressive shit. It's also super off-the-mark. Bodyshaming harms all men, not just the fascists.

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                                        rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Im not sure Cyanide and Happiness' creators are leftists

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                                          Do you think the same about makeup? It is so easy to play with men's insecurities too...

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                                          0ops@lemm.ee
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                                          I don't, no, not really. Make up is heavily advertised, and makeup companies have a vested interest in stoking those insecurities to increase their sales. On the dick-size side of things, you have a few surgeons I guess? Some scammy mobile game ads? But the vast, vast majority of people who aren't fuck-it rich just live with it, the only viable market for that shit is other capitalists, which makes me inclined to think that dick-size insecurities are much more organic.

                                          Hypothesis: if we abolish capitalism and make the transition to socialism and communism, people will still be self conscious about their dick-size, because this particular self-consciousness probably pre-dates society itself

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