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  • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

    The same people comparing their cars, bank accounts, houses, even their dogs and schools their children go to. to decide who is ""alpha"" and who is poor. Capitalist religion-induced issues.

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    0ops@lemm.ee
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    Ngl, I frankly kinda doubt that who owns the means of production has any bearing on an individual's self-consciousness regarding their penis size

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      Ngl, I frankly kinda doubt that who owns the means of production has any bearing on an individual's self-consciousness regarding their penis size

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      gsus4@mander.xyz
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      Do you think the same about makeup? It is so easy to play with men's insecurities too...

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      • S stebo02@sopuli.xyz

        who's out there comparing their dicks to other dudes to know if they're below or above average

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        rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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        I would volunteer to look at a bunch of penises...for science of course.

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        • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

          The same people comparing their cars, bank accounts, houses, even their dogs and schools their children go to. to decide who is ""alpha"" and who is poor. Capitalist religion-induced issues.

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          rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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          We had comparative wealth inequality for thousands to tens of thousands of years before capitalism.

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          • R rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works

            We had comparative wealth inequality for thousands to tens of thousands of years before capitalism.

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            gsus4@mander.xyz
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            #70

            Yes, but you didnt have status anxiety (i.e. if you can become anything you want if you work hard enough, why aren't you ""alpha"" yet?) and the prosperity gospel: "you deserve to be poor because you don't hustle enough at the altar of crapitalism".

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            • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

              Do you think the same about makeup? It is so easy to play with men's insecurities too...

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              rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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              We had makeup thousands of years before capitalism.

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              • N nyamlae@lemmy.world

                hA hA sMaLL pEnIs

                Leftists bodyshaming men to criticize their fascism is some real regressive shit. It's also super off-the-mark. Bodyshaming harms all men, not just the fascists.

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                rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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                Im not sure Cyanide and Happiness' creators are leftists

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                • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

                  Do you think the same about makeup? It is so easy to play with men's insecurities too...

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                  0ops@lemm.ee
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                  I don't, no, not really. Make up is heavily advertised, and makeup companies have a vested interest in stoking those insecurities to increase their sales. On the dick-size side of things, you have a few surgeons I guess? Some scammy mobile game ads? But the vast, vast majority of people who aren't fuck-it rich just live with it, the only viable market for that shit is other capitalists, which makes me inclined to think that dick-size insecurities are much more organic.

                  Hypothesis: if we abolish capitalism and make the transition to socialism and communism, people will still be self conscious about their dick-size, because this particular self-consciousness probably pre-dates society itself

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                  • L lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com

                    👌🏼 is used as a sign for white nationalists. Now I believe it.

                    Just help them along and let them have it: cooperate with your fellow white nationalists by following their direction on culture.
                    So docile.

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                    calipherjones@lemmy.world
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                    Holy cringe

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                    • R rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works

                      We had makeup thousands of years before capitalism.

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                      gsus4@mander.xyz
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                      What about penis implants and viagra?

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                      • T thefogan@programming.dev

                        I believe the OK one was just 4chan going

                        "lol, the left is so gullible if we say the OK sign is a sign of white nationalists, they'll publish it". Of course the reality is, when they sent it out, the actual white nationalists saw it and started using it.

                        which is kind of the thing that they do. Just like pepe.. to my knowledge the original author doesn't seem to be a bad guy. Meme itself was used in non horrible ways for years. But today you see someone join something with a pepe avitar or similar... you know there's a 90% chance that whatever community you are in is about to get a test of how they react to the racial slurs that are about to come up.

                        Or you know you can go to the most famous and talked about ones. IE that symbol of good fortune that existed in countless peaceful cultures for thousands of years.

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                        calipherjones@lemmy.world
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                        Yup, as long as there's a group of people with a shared understanding, any symbol can be compromised. All it takes is the right context for understanding.

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                        • 0 0ops@lemm.ee

                          I don't, no, not really. Make up is heavily advertised, and makeup companies have a vested interest in stoking those insecurities to increase their sales. On the dick-size side of things, you have a few surgeons I guess? Some scammy mobile game ads? But the vast, vast majority of people who aren't fuck-it rich just live with it, the only viable market for that shit is other capitalists, which makes me inclined to think that dick-size insecurities are much more organic.

                          Hypothesis: if we abolish capitalism and make the transition to socialism and communism, people will still be self conscious about their dick-size, because this particular self-consciousness probably pre-dates society itself

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                          gsus4@mander.xyz
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                          Communism failed horribly, don't put words in my mouth. Conspicuous consumption, planned obsolescence, manufactured demand, etc is taking longer, but it will fail too eventually.

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                          • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

                            What about penis implants and viagra?

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                            rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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                            Those come after. Capitalism is a late 18th century CE creation

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                            • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

                              Yes, but you didnt have status anxiety (i.e. if you can become anything you want if you work hard enough, why aren't you ""alpha"" yet?) and the prosperity gospel: "you deserve to be poor because you don't hustle enough at the altar of crapitalism".

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                              rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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                              You absolutely have Calvinism before capitalism which is what the prosperoty gospel is rooted within

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                              • R rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works

                                You absolutely have Calvinism before capitalism which is what the prosperoty gospel is rooted within

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                                But in Calvinism you couldn't do anything about it, in the prosperity gospel, it is your fault, because you don't belive enough, so you should try harder.

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                                • R rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works

                                  Those come after. Capitalism is a late 18th century CE creation

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                                  It's actually from earlier than that (Locke, Smith later, yes), but it only became unmanageable after we found cheap energy in the industrial revolution, which made the human element mostly trivial.

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                                  • gsus4@mander.xyzG gsus4@mander.xyz

                                    It's actually from earlier than that (Locke, Smith later, yes), but it only became unmanageable after we found cheap energy in the industrial revolution, which made the human element mostly trivial.

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                                    rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works
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                                    Smith wrote in the 18th century. Locke, as I recall, never did much with economics

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                                    • R rowrowrowyourbot@sh.itjust.works

                                      Smith wrote in the 18th century. Locke, as I recall, never did much with economics

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                                      Locke "invented" liberalism, which Smith, as a moral philosopher, concretized in practice.

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                                      • C calipherjones@lemmy.world

                                        Holy cringe

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                                        lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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                                        Anytime someone says "can't use 👌🏼 anymore, white nationalists use it" instead of resisting that by reasserting the more common usage, they're letting a minority like white nationalists take over & decide the meaning of cultural signs for the majority: yes, that is holy cringe.

                                        Language & cultural conventions take cooperation: stop cooperating with & caving to white nationalists.

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                                        • D dan00@lemm.ee

                                          As usual i read too much into stupid shit. Yes, this is toxic masculinity just as much as punching someone in the face. But, like everything, context matters and I believe directing harm towards “bad” people is “good” (aka punching a nazi is good, even preferable). My granpa (a declared fash) would shield behind the “no violence” stand to support the most heinous shit and my point always has been that somebody need to shoot a nazi eventually. That guy would be “bad” for killing a person but we need those guys. At some point kindness doesn’t cut it anymore.

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                                          gsus4@mander.xyz
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                                          Shit, that's a tough trolley problem...particularly if your grandpa is an ok guy otherwise and mostly harmless...maybe just lock him out of social media? 😄

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