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Crunchyroll CEO Responds to Calls To Pay Japanese Anime Companies More Money for Overseas Distribution

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  • brewchin@lemmy.worldB brewchin@lemmy.world

    Interesting. This isn't the "'no' with lots of words LOL" that I expected from a/their CEO, and does more to highlight the problems with Netflix's model.

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    I really wish someone would just set up "GOG for anime seasons" and let me buy and download MP4 files (or whatever) so I can have an offline collection legally.

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    • e0qdk@reddthat.comE e0qdk@reddthat.com

      I really wish someone would just set up "GOG for anime seasons" and let me buy and download MP4 files (or whatever) so I can have an offline collection legally.

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      Whilst I agree, there's (currently) nothing stopping you from buying the DVDs? Many of the shows I've wanted own for repeat watching are released that way.

      Though it's probably a time-limited thing, given that physical media is getting rarer and everything is now all about rent-seeking, where you'll own nothing, have nothing to hold, and be thankful to be able to pay monthly for it.

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      • brewchin@lemmy.worldB brewchin@lemmy.world

        Whilst I agree, there's (currently) nothing stopping you from buying the DVDs? Many of the shows I've wanted own for repeat watching are released that way.

        Though it's probably a time-limited thing, given that physical media is getting rarer and everything is now all about rent-seeking, where you'll own nothing, have nothing to hold, and be thankful to be able to pay monthly for it.

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        It can be expensive depending on the show. One of my favorite anime, The Legend of the Galactic Heroes, last printed DVDs in 2004. Enjoy dropping several hundred dollars for them. You can get the blu-rays but now you're paying nearly a thousand.

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        • unboxious@ani.socialU unboxious@ani.social

          It can be expensive depending on the show. One of my favorite anime, The Legend of the Galactic Heroes, last printed DVDs in 2004. Enjoy dropping several hundred dollars for them. You can get the blu-rays but now you're paying nearly a thousand.

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          I assume those would be 2nd-hand as well? Which kind of misses the point of wanting to support the creators since that money won't be going to them.

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          • brewchin@lemmy.worldB brewchin@lemmy.world

            Whilst I agree, there's (currently) nothing stopping you from buying the DVDs? Many of the shows I've wanted own for repeat watching are released that way.

            Though it's probably a time-limited thing, given that physical media is getting rarer and everything is now all about rent-seeking, where you'll own nothing, have nothing to hold, and be thankful to be able to pay monthly for it.

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            Whilst I agree, there's (currently) nothing stopping you from buying the DVDs?

            I have a ridiculous number of DVDs. (Blu-Ray on the other hand can fuck off and die.) A ton of content is just not practically available as DVDs.

            Checking Amazon just now for some stuff that was absolutely impossible to find at all a few years ago when I was looking for it, there seem to be non-US releases now (e.g. region 2, region 4...) for some of them at not insane prices. Others want $300 for "only 1 in stock" from a nonsense bot account with a last purchase comment from ~2015... i.e. they probably aren't real listings even if I was willing to pay that insane amount. A few others look like they might be commercial pirate offerings with only subsets of episodes and strange packaging. (I might just be OOTL on some marketing gimmick with those though.)

            Honestly, I've largely given up on anime since COVID hit. I still like the art, but I don't really watch new shows any more. The inability to get legit copies in a timely fashion is the main reason why. The shift to Blu-Ray really alienated me. Yes, I can work around its bullshit up a point. No, I am not going to pay ~$60 for half a show from years ago and then have to do quasi-illegal shit just to get it to maybe play on my computer -- without menus. Fuck that.

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            • unboxious@ani.socialU unboxious@ani.social

              It can be expensive depending on the show. One of my favorite anime, The Legend of the Galactic Heroes, last printed DVDs in 2004. Enjoy dropping several hundred dollars for them. You can get the blu-rays but now you're paying nearly a thousand.

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              I don't disagree, but there person to whom I was replying said they were after legal copies. That means you're going to pay for them, digital or physical. 🤷‍♂️

              Imagine being a One Piece, Bleach or similar fan and wanting the full collection... 😬

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              • e0qdk@reddthat.comE e0qdk@reddthat.com

                Whilst I agree, there's (currently) nothing stopping you from buying the DVDs?

                I have a ridiculous number of DVDs. (Blu-Ray on the other hand can fuck off and die.) A ton of content is just not practically available as DVDs.

                Checking Amazon just now for some stuff that was absolutely impossible to find at all a few years ago when I was looking for it, there seem to be non-US releases now (e.g. region 2, region 4...) for some of them at not insane prices. Others want $300 for "only 1 in stock" from a nonsense bot account with a last purchase comment from ~2015... i.e. they probably aren't real listings even if I was willing to pay that insane amount. A few others look like they might be commercial pirate offerings with only subsets of episodes and strange packaging. (I might just be OOTL on some marketing gimmick with those though.)

                Honestly, I've largely given up on anime since COVID hit. I still like the art, but I don't really watch new shows any more. The inability to get legit copies in a timely fashion is the main reason why. The shift to Blu-Ray really alienated me. Yes, I can work around its bullshit up a point. No, I am not going to pay ~$60 for half a show from years ago and then have to do quasi-illegal shit just to get it to maybe play on my computer -- without menus. Fuck that.

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                The situation definitely sucks.

                What's the saying about piracy? It's not a morality problem - it's a service (business model) problem.

                "The easiest way to stop piracy... is to give those people a service that's better than what they’re receiving from the pirates." -Gabe Newell

                Disagree with you on the BD issue, though. Much more capacity, higher quality video and audio, and drives are dirt cheap. I have a BDROM in an external enclosure, and it handles DVD and BD perfectly. 🤷‍♂️

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                • chellewalker@lemmy.caC chellewalker@lemmy.ca

                  I assume those would be 2nd-hand as well? Which kind of misses the point of wanting to support the creators since that money won't be going to them.

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                  Yes. That said, the blu-ray was something like $800 even when it was new.

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                  • brewchin@lemmy.worldB brewchin@lemmy.world

                    I don't disagree, but there person to whom I was replying said they were after legal copies. That means you're going to pay for them, digital or physical. 🤷‍♂️

                    Imagine being a One Piece, Bleach or similar fan and wanting the full collection... 😬

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                    That means you’re going to pay for them, digital or physical

                    Sure. I don't mind paying. My blu-ray for one show shouldn't be worth more than my car though.

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                    • brewchin@lemmy.worldB brewchin@lemmy.world

                      The situation definitely sucks.

                      What's the saying about piracy? It's not a morality problem - it's a service (business model) problem.

                      "The easiest way to stop piracy... is to give those people a service that's better than what they’re receiving from the pirates." -Gabe Newell

                      Disagree with you on the BD issue, though. Much more capacity, higher quality video and audio, and drives are dirt cheap. I have a BDROM in an external enclosure, and it handles DVD and BD perfectly. 🤷‍♂️

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                      "The easiest way to stop piracy... is to give those people a service that's better than what they’re receiving from the pirates." -Gabe Newell

                      Yep -- although even there, I have 5x as many games on GOG as Steam because they're mine and I don't have to worry about dealing with forced updates ever. That was a BIG deal for me when I had crappy internet access -- a single game's forced update could tank my entire month's quota... I still get nervous putting Steam in online mode to this day even though I don't have to deal with that shit any more.

                      Disagree with you on the BD issue, though. Much more capacity, higher quality video and audio, and drives are dirt cheap. I have a BDROM in an external enclosure, and it handles DVD and BD perfectly.

                      My complaint there's about Blu-Ray's DRM. Better quality video means nothing to me if I can't actually get the damned thing to even play.

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