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  • C cm0002@infosec.pub

    It's a feature of Lemmy where your instance will proxy image links for you, it can be useful in some cases to do things like bypass regional censorships (If you can access your home instance from your country, but not instance lemmy.example.com your home instance can proxy the image from lemmy.example.com so you can still see it (text is handled by federation already, so no proxy required for just text)) or to cache images in case an instance goes down

    But it seems to be poorly implemented where it's end user experience is a pain at best, and the more aggressive it's set the more annoying it is.

    Take for example this instance I'm currently on, infosec.pub, they seem to have it set to aggressively replace all image links including in comments no matter what.

    So now my attempt to reply to this comment https://infosec.pub/comment/20590443 is utterly broken because the image service just doesn't like it despite me just wanting to link to the off-site gif link manually typing the markdown instead.

    This is what that gif looks like proxied:

    https://infosec.pub/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F8gHKNsT1%2Fmichael-scott-why.gif

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    mech@feddit.org
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    I was wondering why your reply shows up empty on my instance.

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    • C cm0002@infosec.pub

      It's a feature of Lemmy where your instance will proxy image links for you, it can be useful in some cases to do things like bypass regional censorships (If you can access your home instance from your country, but not instance lemmy.example.com your home instance can proxy the image from lemmy.example.com so you can still see it (text is handled by federation already, so no proxy required for just text)) or to cache images in case an instance goes down

      But it seems to be poorly implemented where it's end user experience is a pain at best, and the more aggressive it's set the more annoying it is.

      Take for example this instance I'm currently on, infosec.pub, they seem to have it set to aggressively replace all image links including in comments no matter what.

      So now my attempt to reply to this comment https://infosec.pub/comment/20590443 is utterly broken because the image service just doesn't like it despite me just wanting to link to the off-site gif link manually typing the markdown instead.

      This is what that gif looks like proxied:

      https://infosec.pub/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F8gHKNsT1%2Fmichael-scott-why.gif

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      sarahvalentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      wrote last edited by
      #7

      Neither of those links display an image for me. One shows a tiny empty box in your comment and the other lands me on a weird little error page about "msg too wide"

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      • sarahvalentine@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS sarahvalentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone

        Neither of those links display an image for me. One shows a tiny empty box in your comment and the other lands me on a weird little error page about "msg too wide"

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        cm0002@infosec.pub
        wrote last edited by cm0002@infosec.pub
        #8

        Yeah, because the proxy has decided it doesn't like it

        This is what I actually wanted to link to/embed

        https://i.ibb.co/8gHKNsT1/michael-scott-why.gif

        Well actually I originally tried with a direct tenor link

        https://tenor.com/bdBiU.gif

        But it didn't like that either

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        • sarahvalentine@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS sarahvalentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone

          I fuckin hate webp format. Pointless format given the use case coverage between jpg and png.

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          widdershins@lemmy.world
          wrote last edited by
          #9

          I usually change the url to ".jpeg?format=jpeg" just in case that formatting takes any extra computing on their end. They want to use a boondoggle I'm gonna use the boondoggle.

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          • C cm0002@infosec.pub

            Yeah, because the proxy has decided it doesn't like it

            This is what I actually wanted to link to/embed

            https://i.ibb.co/8gHKNsT1/michael-scott-why.gif

            Well actually I originally tried with a direct tenor link

            https://tenor.com/bdBiU.gif

            But it didn't like that either

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            sarahvalentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            wrote last edited by
            #10

            Tenor in particular is shitty like that too. If I directly link to a tenor gif on discord, people have to click the link and open a webpage to view the gif. To embed it in discord I have to save it and upload it.

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            • C cm0002@infosec.pub

              It's a feature of Lemmy where your instance will proxy image links for you, it can be useful in some cases to do things like bypass regional censorships (If you can access your home instance from your country, but not instance lemmy.example.com your home instance can proxy the image from lemmy.example.com so you can still see it (text is handled by federation already, so no proxy required for just text)) or to cache images in case an instance goes down

              But it seems to be poorly implemented where it's end user experience is a pain at best, and the more aggressive it's set the more annoying it is.

              Take for example this instance I'm currently on, infosec.pub, they seem to have it set to aggressively replace all image links including in comments no matter what.

              So now my attempt to reply to this comment https://infosec.pub/comment/20590443 is utterly broken because the image service just doesn't like it despite me just wanting to link to the off-site gif link manually typing the markdown instead.

              This is what that gif looks like proxied:

              https://infosec.pub/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F8gHKNsT1%2Fmichael-scott-why.gif

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              michael@piefed.chrisco.me
              wrote last edited by
              #11

              Interesting, I can comment on piefed (just did a test) to the comment above. But I get a new tab when I try to see the proxy link.

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              • sarahvalentine@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS sarahvalentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                I fuckin hate webp format. Pointless format given the use case coverage between jpg and png.

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                owoarchist@pawb.social
                wrote last edited by
                #12

                Yep. And most damning, a lot of my image viewing or editing apps don't like the webp format.

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                • widdershins@lemmy.worldW widdershins@lemmy.world

                  Is it the "?format= " at the end of a url that usually turns a quick download of a .jpg or .gif into a .webp or .webm download?

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                  thorry@feddit.org
                  wrote last edited by
                  #13

                  I especially hate it when the source is already the same as whatever the target is, but it still breaks the image. Removing the format parameter suddenly makes the image work again, it's so dumb.

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                  • C cm0002@infosec.pub

                    It's a feature of Lemmy where your instance will proxy image links for you, it can be useful in some cases to do things like bypass regional censorships (If you can access your home instance from your country, but not instance lemmy.example.com your home instance can proxy the image from lemmy.example.com so you can still see it (text is handled by federation already, so no proxy required for just text)) or to cache images in case an instance goes down

                    But it seems to be poorly implemented where it's end user experience is a pain at best, and the more aggressive it's set the more annoying it is.

                    Take for example this instance I'm currently on, infosec.pub, they seem to have it set to aggressively replace all image links including in comments no matter what.

                    So now my attempt to reply to this comment https://infosec.pub/comment/20590443 is utterly broken because the image service just doesn't like it despite me just wanting to link to the off-site gif link manually typing the markdown instead.

                    This is what that gif looks like proxied:

                    https://infosec.pub/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F8gHKNsT1%2Fmichael-scott-why.gif

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                    aeronmelon@lemmy.world
                    wrote last edited by
                    #14

                    The proxy link returns a funny error; “too wide.”

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                    • C cm0002@infosec.pub

                      It's a feature of Lemmy where your instance will proxy image links for you, it can be useful in some cases to do things like bypass regional censorships (If you can access your home instance from your country, but not instance lemmy.example.com your home instance can proxy the image from lemmy.example.com so you can still see it (text is handled by federation already, so no proxy required for just text)) or to cache images in case an instance goes down

                      But it seems to be poorly implemented where it's end user experience is a pain at best, and the more aggressive it's set the more annoying it is.

                      Take for example this instance I'm currently on, infosec.pub, they seem to have it set to aggressively replace all image links including in comments no matter what.

                      So now my attempt to reply to this comment https://infosec.pub/comment/20590443 is utterly broken because the image service just doesn't like it despite me just wanting to link to the off-site gif link manually typing the markdown instead.

                      This is what that gif looks like proxied:

                      https://infosec.pub/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F8gHKNsT1%2Fmichael-scott-why.gif

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                      stellarextract@lemmy.zip
                      wrote last edited by
                      #15

                      A good thing about proxying is that it prevents auto-loading of resources from potentially malicious domains. For instance, I could make an image comment containing an image link to a server I control. When you reply to my comment, since you clearly have seen my comment, I can now look at my server logs and see the IP addresses of everyone who viewed my image. I now know that your IP address is in that list.

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                      • C cm0002@infosec.pub

                        Yeah, because the proxy has decided it doesn't like it

                        This is what I actually wanted to link to/embed

                        https://i.ibb.co/8gHKNsT1/michael-scott-why.gif

                        Well actually I originally tried with a direct tenor link

                        https://tenor.com/bdBiU.gif

                        But it didn't like that either

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                        in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #16
                          "code": "validate-width",
                          "msg": "Too wide"
                        }```
                        
                        stripped the headers, your image didn't make it through the infosec.pub proxy. 
                        
                        

                        X-Firefox-Spdy: h2
                        access-control-expose-headers: vary, date, content-length, content-encoding, content-type
                        cache-control: public, max-age=60
                        content-encoding: br
                        content-type: application/json
                        date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 02:10:57 GMT
                        server: nginx
                        vary: accept-encoding, Origin, Access-Control-Request-Method, Access-Control-Request-Headers

                        Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,/;q=0.8
                        Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br, zstd
                        Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
                        Connection: keep-alive
                        DNT: 1
                        Host: infosec.pub
                        Priority: u=0, i
                        Referer: https://piefed.social/
                        Sec-Fetch-Dest: document
                        Sec-Fetch-Mode: navigate
                        Sec-Fetch-Site: cross-site
                        Sec-Fetch-User: ?1
                        Sec-GPC: 1
                        TE: trailers
                        Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
                        User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:140.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/140.0

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                        • S stellarextract@lemmy.zip

                          A good thing about proxying is that it prevents auto-loading of resources from potentially malicious domains. For instance, I could make an image comment containing an image link to a server I control. When you reply to my comment, since you clearly have seen my comment, I can now look at my server logs and see the IP addresses of everyone who viewed my image. I now know that your IP address is in that list.

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                          in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social
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                          #17

                          Exactly this.

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                          • A aeronmelon@lemmy.world

                            The proxy link returns a funny error; “too wide.”

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                            usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca
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                            #18

                            It's a gif of OP's mom

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                            • C cm0002@infosec.pub
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                              lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
                              wrote last edited by
                              #19

                              I like it because it protects my privacy.

                              pict-rs (the proxy software) is using ffmpeg in the background to recompile the image which will crash and burn it the image has even the slightest issue/corruption.

                              Pict-rs has options to specify maximum width etc which need adjusting else it blocks too much

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                              • lazynooblet@lazysoci.alL lazynooblet@lazysoci.al

                                I like it because it protects my privacy.

                                pict-rs (the proxy software) is using ffmpeg in the background to recompile the image which will crash and burn it the image has even the slightest issue/corruption.

                                Pict-rs has options to specify maximum width etc which need adjusting else it blocks too much

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                                cm0002@infosec.pub
                                wrote last edited by
                                #20

                                Yea I know there are certainly tangible benefits like privacy, censorship bypass, caching etc

                                But the crux of the issue

                                using ffmpeg in the background to recompile the image which will crash and burn it the image has even the slightest issue/corruption.

                                Does it really need to do all that? IMO it's a proxy and it should just proxy things, not mess with things. Some basic checks at the most to just verify the image is an image and reject non-images, but that's it. If there's a need to also manipulate images then it should be handled separately

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                                • C cm0002@infosec.pub

                                  Yea I know there are certainly tangible benefits like privacy, censorship bypass, caching etc

                                  But the crux of the issue

                                  using ffmpeg in the background to recompile the image which will crash and burn it the image has even the slightest issue/corruption.

                                  Does it really need to do all that? IMO it's a proxy and it should just proxy things, not mess with things. Some basic checks at the most to just verify the image is an image and reject non-images, but that's it. If there's a need to also manipulate images then it should be handled separately

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                                  lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #21

                                  The idea is that by saving the image and thumbnail it saves on processing and bandwidth is the server hosting the proxy.

                                  Pict-rs is the same image store used by Lemmy for it's own embedded images.

                                  I agree with you that there are improvements to be made. I've spent too long troubleshooting images on lazysoci.al.

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                                  • S stellarextract@lemmy.zip

                                    A good thing about proxying is that it prevents auto-loading of resources from potentially malicious domains. For instance, I could make an image comment containing an image link to a server I control. When you reply to my comment, since you clearly have seen my comment, I can now look at my server logs and see the IP addresses of everyone who viewed my image. I now know that your IP address is in that list.

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                                    sortekanin@feddit.dk
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #22

                                    I've heard this security concern before, but I'm a bit confused about the real attack vector here. I mean let's say you do this - you post an image to some random Lemmy instance and behind the scenes, you gather all the IPs which fetch the image. What malicious thing could you do with that? Genuinely curious.

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                                    • sortekanin@feddit.dkS sortekanin@feddit.dk

                                      I've heard this security concern before, but I'm a bit confused about the real attack vector here. I mean let's say you do this - you post an image to some random Lemmy instance and behind the scenes, you gather all the IPs which fetch the image. What malicious thing could you do with that? Genuinely curious.

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                                      mrnobody@quokk.au
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                                      #23

                                      Hack their Gibson of course.

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                                      • C cm0002@infosec.pub
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                                        hirom@beehaw.org
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                                        #24

                                        Does any client supports proxying images or links? If that's a client settings, users would control whether to use proxy or not, maybe even which proxy to use.

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