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  • B bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works

    Bro i dont care, stop making art if you dont enjoy it, im screenshotting funny pictures and sharing while i poop it's not that serious. Artists are supposed to make art because they feel they have to, not because they want everyone to know their name.

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    umbraroze@slrpnk.net
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    Artists are supposed to make art because they feel they have to, not because they want everyone to know their name.

    Hi, artist here. That part is true, I do create stuff just because I like to. And it's great!

    I do feel very fortunate that no law requires me to publish this stuff. Publishing works is a surprisingly complicated process that a lot of people don't really think about. There's a lot of surprising sources of headaches; for example, some people have very strange ideas about how art should be distributed.

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    • B bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works

      Brother it's digital data it's not stealing it's copying they don't lose the piece of art they made when i copy and send it to a cousin for shits and gigs

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      sharkticon@lemmy.zip
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      What are you talking about? No one's worried about you copying stuff. Have you not been paying attention to anything in this thread? The contention here is people editing the art to remove the artist signature. You're altering the art to take away their name, you'd be stealing it at that point. You do that you're a piece of shit. Is that what you are arguing for or not? If not I'm not sure what you're arguing for here.

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      • T tempest@lemmy.ca

        I mean I can't wait for the paintings in 100 years to be AI generated with the person who wrote the prompt having their snap chat qr Code or tiktok handle in the corner.

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        It better be a dancing qr code with their handle that changes places between the 4 corners every second, too

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        • B bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works

          There was enough art to last anyone a thousand lifetimes before any of us were born, nobody is doing the world a favor by not getting a real job and sitting at home making art

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          howrar@lemmy.ca
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          #44

          Getting a job doing what? We already have way more than enough people for just about everything. What I want to see more of is art.

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          • B bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works

            Bro i dont care, stop making art if you dont enjoy it, im screenshotting funny pictures and sharing while i poop it's not that serious. Artists are supposed to make art because they feel they have to, not because they want everyone to know their name.

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            forrgott@lemmy.zip
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            Wow. Gatekeeping art? Go fuck yourself

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            • F forrgott@lemmy.zip

              Wow. Gatekeeping art? Go fuck yourself

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              bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
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              Who's gatekeeping?? Im not the one talking about banning posts that aren't cited or whatever

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              • S sharkticon@lemmy.zip

                What are you talking about? No one's worried about you copying stuff. Have you not been paying attention to anything in this thread? The contention here is people editing the art to remove the artist signature. You're altering the art to take away their name, you'd be stealing it at that point. You do that you're a piece of shit. Is that what you are arguing for or not? If not I'm not sure what you're arguing for here.

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                bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
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                #47

                Yes, that's what im arguing for, im gonna crop whatever i want and send it to people and it doesn't hurt anybody and you can cry about it all you want. If you love an artist you can go to their website and buy something from them nobody is stopping you and that helps the artist way more than making sure you include their signature in a screenshot

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                • H howrar@lemmy.ca

                  Getting a job doing what? We already have way more than enough people for just about everything. What I want to see more of is art.

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                  bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
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                  Then you can buy the art nobody is stopping you, not anyone else's problem if an artist makes art nobody wants to buy and they need to get a job instead

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                  • B bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works

                    Yes, that's what im arguing for, im gonna crop whatever i want and send it to people and it doesn't hurt anybody and you can cry about it all you want. If you love an artist you can go to their website and buy something from them nobody is stopping you and that helps the artist way more than making sure you include their signature in a screenshot

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                    sharkticon@lemmy.zip
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                    #49

                    Whelp. Makes you a piece of shit then.

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                    • B bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works

                      Bro i dont care, stop making art if you dont enjoy it, im screenshotting funny pictures and sharing while i poop it's not that serious. Artists are supposed to make art because they feel they have to, not because they want everyone to know their name.

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                      slurpingpus@lemmy.world
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                      #50

                      How to tell everyone you haven't made a single thing in your worthless life:

                      Artists are supposed to make art because they feel they have to

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                      • B bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works

                        Then you can buy the art nobody is stopping you, not anyone else's problem if an artist makes art nobody wants to buy and they need to get a job instead

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                        howrar@lemmy.ca
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                        Then you can buy the art nobody is stopping you

                        Says the person trying to make it harder for me to find the artist that I should be buying from.

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                        • S supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz

                          We need to normalize shaming people for casually sharing stolen art. This includes people sharing things they "made" with AI.

                          I think of it this way, if I publish a work of art I make, if you share it in a way I did not want but still link back to me as the artist, it is going to be really hard for me to be upset with you because even if you stole the art from me you have brought my art to more people's attention so the impact cannot be seen as purely bad.

                          Which doesn't make it right, I am not advocating for stealing art from artists, I am trying to emphasize that if your attentions are good, when in doubt link to the artist. I mean... why not?

                          edit also keep in mind that most actually decent ways of identifying how relevant a website is from the perspective of a search engine is how many unique places that are linked to from that website that people also find useful. I think this is a useful rough measurement of relevance and thus in a structural sense the more you link to genuinely relevant and interesting things, the more connected the entire community becomes in a generative way.

                          Take for example Metafilter, one of the ways you can quantify that Metafilter is an interesting and unique website to read is the degree of interesting and unique links that are placed into context in interesting ways there.

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                          anarchistartificer@slrpnk.net
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                          I agree. This is one of the few areas in which shame can be quite productive

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                          • rubisco@slrpnk.netR rubisco@slrpnk.net

                            https://lemmus.org/post/21226925

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                            anarchistartificer@slrpnk.net
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                            #53

                            Oh wow. That's so brain-dead that it's hard to believe it's not satire

                            Edit: thanks for giving context

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                            • A anarchistartificer@slrpnk.net

                              Oh wow. That's so brain-dead that it's hard to believe it's not satire

                              Edit: thanks for giving context

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                              rubisco@slrpnk.net
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                              #54

                              It's soo weird, right? Like...what an utterly mad hill to die on. It's really not a difficult or unreasonable request.

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                              • rubisco@slrpnk.netR rubisco@slrpnk.net

                                Attribution is not advertising. Cite the artist. (Cropping out citations is just extra work anyway.)
                                Image found here:
                                https://joinfediverse.wiki/Lemmy/en

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                                matombo@feddit.org
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                                #55

                                sorry english is not my first language. What is the difference? Attribution and citing is both giving who made it or is it not?

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                                • matombo@feddit.orgM matombo@feddit.org

                                  sorry english is not my first language. What is the difference? Attribution and citing is both giving who made it or is it not?

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                                  nickiwest@lemmy.world
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                                  You are correct.

                                  The post is pointing out the difference between attribution and advertisement.

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                                  • matombo@feddit.orgM matombo@feddit.org

                                    sorry english is not my first language. What is the difference? Attribution and citing is both giving who made it or is it not?

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                                    rubisco@slrpnk.net
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                                    English is my first language and you have me second guessing myself.
                                    Citations are typically used for sources in academic papers or Wikipedia.
                                    Quotes often get misattributed to various incorrect historical figures.
                                    Accreditation is probably the word I should have used, but attribution is what I was seeing in comments the most.
                                    Also, to me accreditation sounds like something a university or a mortgage bond would seek, not so much an artist, but honestly I don't know for sure.

                                    Ramble aside, yes, they essentially mean the same thing.

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                                    • rubisco@slrpnk.netR rubisco@slrpnk.net

                                      Attribution is not advertising. Cite the artist. (Cropping out citations is just extra work anyway.)
                                      Image found here:
                                      https://joinfediverse.wiki/Lemmy/en

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                                      icastfist@programming.dev
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                                      Is beep banned from lemmy world yet?

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                                      • rubisco@slrpnk.netR rubisco@slrpnk.net

                                        It's soo weird, right? Like...what an utterly mad hill to die on. It's really not a difficult or unreasonable request.

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                                        anarchistartificer@slrpnk.net
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                                        I like your username, by the way. RuBisCO has gotta be one of my top 10 favourite proteins (and probs top 5 favourite enzymes)

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                                        • N nickiwest@lemmy.world

                                          You are correct.

                                          The post is pointing out the difference between attribution and advertisement.

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                                          matombo@feddit.org
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                                          i still don't get it xD

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