@silverpill imo using Announce instead of Add does not make any sense for conversation containers. You add/remove items to a collection right?

@julian @z6MkhPXNfiHDh2qSNjFzZ9yY27C1iHnHVbb1eaxuoiEe4tjk/actor" rel="nofollow noopener">Mike Macgirvin

@mario Yes, activities are supposed to be added to Add.target. Announce with target is kind of weird, but will be compatible with other federated forums.

Alternatively, they can start using Add instead of Announce, like we do. @julian Does that sound feasible? Your personal inbox still 404s but maybe the group inbox will work.

@mike @sk

> @silverpill@mitra.social said:
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> Your personal inbox still 404s but maybe the group inbox will work.

Unrelated to the topic at hand there was a regression in the codebase for the past month that caused the inbox to return a 404 even with a valid content type header.

I think that was the cause of the inbox 404

> @silverpill@mitra.social said:
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> Alternatively, they can start using Add instead of Announce, like we do. @julian Does that sound feasible?

I personally have no problem with it (after all, I advocated in OP to just send both activities)

But I know @nutomic@lemmy.ml will absolutely veto the discussion because it is a breaking change for the entire threadiverse, and he is not wrong.

There is a third option... and that is to send a single multi-typed activity maybe this is the turning point for adoption of multi type activities! (Of course I'm only half joking because I'm sure that'll be ruled breaking and unfeasible too.)

cc @mario@hub.somaton.com

@julian I think Lemmy can keep sending Announce, but accept Add(Activity) as equivalent. FEP-171b implementers can do the reverse. That's easy and doesn't require any breaking changes. @nutomic @mario

Please don't use muti-typing :]

Is this what Mitra does now for 171b/1b12 cross-compatibility?

@julian @mario Yes, it supports both Add and Announce. However, wrapped activities are simply added to a conversation, there is no concept of "group" yet.

Is there any reason why Announce could not be used to facilitate private federated group discussions as well? Assuming visibility maintains scoped to addresses, I don’t see any immediate reason why not…

Private communities are already implemented in Lemmy 1.0 using Announce. Here is the RFC with details, and you can test it on voyager.lemmy.ml.

Yes that would be doable, feel free to open an issue.

Thanks @nutomic@lemmy.ml! I was wondering about that, so good to know it's possible.