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  • jupiterrowland@sh.itjust.worksJ jupiterrowland@sh.itjust.works

    See also here.

    admin@startrek.websiteA This user is from outside of this forum
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    admin@startrek.website
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    Instance admin here, this is backwards. Instance costs increase with the number of users because we don't sell ads. The only people we want signing up for accounts on our instance are people who are excited to be there, and intend to bring their singular wit and conversational A-game.

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    • admin@startrek.websiteA admin@startrek.website

      Instance admin here, this is backwards. Instance costs increase with the number of users because we don't sell ads. The only people we want signing up for accounts on our instance are people who are excited to be there, and intend to bring their singular wit and conversational A-game.

      openstars@piefed.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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      openstars@piefed.social
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      • admin@startrek.websiteA admin@startrek.website

        Instance admin here, this is backwards. Instance costs increase with the number of users because we don't sell ads. The only people we want signing up for accounts on our instance are people who are excited to be there, and intend to bring their singular wit and conversational A-game.

        southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS This user is from outside of this forum
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        southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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        #9

        Dammit! No wonder I'm not wanted!

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        • admin@startrek.websiteA admin@startrek.website

          Instance admin here, this is backwards. Instance costs increase with the number of users because we don't sell ads. The only people we want signing up for accounts on our instance are people who are excited to be there, and intend to bring their singular wit and conversational A-game.

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          thefluffiest@feddit.nl
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          That’s another thing. It should be easier and more obvious to participate in a server, not just as a user but also as a donor. I think there’s a lot more people willing to chip in, but it should be upfront and easy to do.

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          • coelacanth@feddit.nuC coelacanth@feddit.nu

            Okay which instance is shutting down this time? I'm out of the loop here.

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            lugal@sopuli.xyz
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            #11

            Pretty sure it's .ml

            Maybe not but when you ask, no one will answer but when you claim something that isn't true, people will go out of their way to correct you so let's see.

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            • L lugal@sopuli.xyz

              Pretty sure it's .ml

              Maybe not but when you ask, no one will answer but when you claim something that isn't true, people will go out of their way to correct you so let's see.

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              risingswell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              The secret is not letting people know you've deliberately given the wrong answer

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              • thorhop@sopuli.xyzT thorhop@sopuli.xyz

                Yeah, if ActivityPub could support nomadic identity out of the box, that would be great.

                bubs@lemmy.zipB This user is from outside of this forum
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                bubs@lemmy.zip
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                Having lost two of my accounts to recent instance shutdowns, I 100% support this idea.

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                • T thefluffiest@feddit.nl

                  That’s another thing. It should be easier and more obvious to participate in a server, not just as a user but also as a donor. I think there’s a lot more people willing to chip in, but it should be upfront and easy to do.

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                  moncharleskey@lemmy.zip
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                  @Demigodrick@lemmy.zip does a great job posting monthly updates with ways to donate, hopefully others can start or already are doing so.

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                  • coelacanth@feddit.nuC coelacanth@feddit.nu

                    Okay which instance is shutting down this time? I'm out of the loop here.

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                    alt_xa_23@midwest.social
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                    I think lemmings.world announced a few months ago that they were shutting down in July, but I'm not sure of that's what the meme is referring to

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                    • L lugal@sopuli.xyz

                      Pretty sure it's .ml

                      Maybe not but when you ask, no one will answer but when you claim something that isn't true, people will go out of their way to correct you so let's see.

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                      mousepotatodoesstuff@piefed.social
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                      #16

                      Murphy's law FTW

                      (For people out of the loop, it's actually Cunningham's Law, I'm just referencing a joke)

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                      • R risingswell@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        The secret is not letting people know you've deliberately given the wrong answer

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                        lugal@sopuli.xyz
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                        #17

                        Is that true or are you deliberately giving a wrong advice?

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                        • jupiterrowland@sh.itjust.worksJ jupiterrowland@sh.itjust.works

                          See also here.

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                          Frankly, I'm interested in learning more about who the admins are and how they can keep affording to shed money onto their instances.

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                            Frankly, I'm interested in learning more about who the admins are and how they can keep affording to shed money onto their instances.

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                            db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            donations

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                            • coelacanth@feddit.nuC coelacanth@feddit.nu

                              Okay which instance is shutting down this time? I'm out of the loop here.

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                              cavok@lemmy.world
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                              Piefed.europe.pub disappeared without a trace. Not even a notice I think.

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                              • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

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                                chakravanti@monero.town
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                                Joker points out that the borg are a real person.

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                                • C chakravanti@monero.town

                                  Joker points out that the borg are a real person.

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                                  openstars@piefed.social
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                                  You take that back! (/s)

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                                  • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

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                                    myveryrealname@lemmy.world
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                                    You say this a lot, don't you?

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                                    • M myveryrealname@lemmy.world

                                      You say this a lot, don't you?

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                                      openstars@piefed.social
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                                      Lately it's struck me as funny, as I watch the world burn.

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                                      • nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.comN nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        can you give me an ELI5 of what nomadic identity does? I gave a glance at that page and just wound up with more questions lol

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                                        jupiterrowland@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Normally, your Fediverse identity is tied to an account. It is an account. And that account is tied to a server. Thus, your Fediverse identity is tied to a specific server.

                                        Now imagine your Fediverse identity is not tied to a server. It can exist simultaneously on multiple independent servers. And I don't mean a Lemmy instance on a Beowulf cluster. I mean two, three, four or more Lemmy instances.

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                                        Also, I don't mean dumb copies that exist after you've moved someplace else. I mean clones. Live, hot, bidirectional, near-real-time, bidirectional backups. And they're still all the same identity with all the same content, always.

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                                        Okay, so you're on lemmy.dbzer0.com. Let's assume you also have a clone on lemmy.foo.social and one on lemmy.bar.social.

                                        The identity of your original on lemmy.dbzer0.com is nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com.

                                        The identity of your clone on lemmy.foo.social is nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com.

                                        The identity of your clone on lemmy.bar.social is nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com.

                                        A hypothetical nomadic Lemmy will see them all as one identity. One account, basically, only that it isn't one account because you can't have one set of login credentials across three fully separate servers. The logins are separate, they are individual, but everything else is kept in sync between the instances.

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                                        So, what exactly happens when your identity is nomadic?

                                        You send a new post. This post, as part of your identity, is automatically sync'd over to lemmy.foo.social and lemmy.bar.social.

                                        You join a new community. This community membership, as part of your identity, is automatically sync'd over to lemmy.foo.social and lemmy.bar.social. Still, that community will only list one you and not three of them.

                                        You change some settings on lemmy.dbzer0.com. These changes are automatically sync'd over to lemmy.foo.social and lemmy.bar.social.

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                                        Okay, wait, now comes the real kicker. The reason why all this exists.

                                        So lemmy.dbzer0.com goes offline for whichever reason.

                                        But fret not, you can still carry on! For you can log into either of your clones and use them just like the original!

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                                        So instead of logging into your account on lemmy.dbzer0.com, you log into your account on lemmy.foo.social. And you can use it just like the original with all the same communities and all the same settings and whatnot. It's all there.

                                        Whatever you do is attributed to nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com. Even though lemmy.dbzer0.com is offline. Even though you do it on lemmy.foo.social.

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                                        Also, whatever you do on lemmy.foo.social is automatically sync'd over to lemmy.bar.social.

                                        Now, wait for it: lemmy.dbzer0.com comes back online. And everything you've done on lemmy.foo.social while lemmy.dbzer0.com was offline is sync'd back to lemmy.dbzer0.com.

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                                        But what if lemmy.dbzer0.com shuts down for good? When it doesn't come back? How can your identity stay nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com then?

                                        It doesn't have to.

                                        You log into one of your clones. Then you make that clone your new main instance, your new original.

                                        Your identity becomes nylo@lemmy.foo.social. The identity of your clone on lemmy.bar.social becomes nylo@lemmy.foo.social. All your posts and comments are re-attributed to the new name of your identity. All communities that you're a member of switch to listing you as a member with the new name of your identity.

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                                        Sounds revolutionary. New? No.

                                        This was thought up by the Friendica inventor Mike Macgirvin as early as 2011. He actually wrote a whole protocol around it: Zot. And he first implemented it on a fork of a Friendica fork named Red (later Red Matrix, now known as Hubzilla) in 2012. Almost four years before Mastodon. Five years before ActivityPub.

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                                        Almost everything that he made after Hubzilla, including both Hubzilla descendants that still exist today ((streams) from 2021, Forte from 2024), are fully nomadic. (streams) uses a protocol named Nomad, essentially a much newer version of Zot, but incompatible to Hubzilla's Zot6, so it got a new name. Forte uses nothing but ActivityPub for just about the same level of nomadicity.

                                        By the way, nomadic identity can also used to move an uncloned, single-instance identity from one server to another. In fact, this is a subset of nomadic identity (as opposed to its basic operation as you may assume) that's based on cloning. It involves creating a clone, making the clone your new main, demoting your old main to clone, then deleting your old-main-now-gone-clone in order to not leave any dead stuff behind.

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                                        • coelacanth@feddit.nuC coelacanth@feddit.nu

                                          Okay which instance is shutting down this time? I'm out of the loop here.

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                                          jupiterrowland@sh.itjust.works
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                                          Doesn't matter. Stuff like this happens all over the Fediverse all the time.

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