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Just stop - posted by u/IcedRaktajino

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  • icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI This user is from outside of this forum
    icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI This user is from outside of this forum
    icedraktajino@startrek.website
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    #1

    Beyond ridiculous.

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    • icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI icedraktajino@startrek.website

      Beyond ridiculous.

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      valar@lemmy.ca
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      #2

      "I've got a great idea, I'll make a bot to duplicate posts from reddit to the fediverse! I wonder why no one else has thought of this? Oh well."

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      • V valar@lemmy.ca

        "I've got a great idea, I'll make a bot to duplicate posts from reddit to the fediverse! I wonder why no one else has thought of this? Oh well."

        icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI This user is from outside of this forum
        icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI This user is from outside of this forum
        icedraktajino@startrek.website
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        #3

        Every time there's an influx. :bangs_head_against_wall:

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        • icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI icedraktajino@startrek.website

          Beyond ridiculous.

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          mushroommunk@lemmy.today
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          For me it's the doubling down defending themselves as they get banned from community after community. Like bro, have the tiniest modicum of self reflection please

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          • icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI icedraktajino@startrek.website

            Beyond ridiculous.

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            ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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            #5

            Yeah, I typically just block them as well, it's so annoying.

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            • M mushroommunk@lemmy.today

              For me it's the doubling down defending themselves as they get banned from community after community. Like bro, have the tiniest modicum of self reflection please

              icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI This user is from outside of this forum
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              icedraktajino@startrek.website
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              #6

              I'm not gonna out the user since that would put this post in violation of one of the rules here, but it appears they've set up camp and created their own communities to botspam to. I DM'd the admin of their home instance but who knows if they'll see a problem with it.

              Edit/Update: That spammer now appears to be banned on their home instance.

              For me, it's the people that come here and feel the need to bring all of Reddit with them. Like, do they also bring their shitty exes and all their baggage on dates with their new SO?

              And it's not like instances are largely (entirely?) volunteer run and rely on donations or admins footing the bill for hosting. Oh, wait. They are. 18,200+ posts (as of this comment) from a two month old account with the associated thumbnail images, each federated out to who knows how many other instances that store copies and local thumbnails is a pretty clear abuse of the platform. I'd also wager that the userbot in question isn't donating to their home instance, either.

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              • icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI icedraktajino@startrek.website

                Beyond ridiculous.

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                lumpyluggage@lemmy.world
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                #7

                I'm new, why is this bad? I've seen quite a few complaints about the lack of content here already

                icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI V cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comC K 4 Replies Last reply
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                • L lumpyluggage@lemmy.world

                  I'm new, why is this bad? I've seen quite a few complaints about the lack of content here already

                  icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI This user is from outside of this forum
                  icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI This user is from outside of this forum
                  icedraktajino@startrek.website
                  wrote last edited by icedraktajino@startrek.website
                  #8

                  In short: it's low-engagement spam.

                  In longer form:

                  It's just blasted out via a bot and not posted organically. It makes scrolling by /new impossible because of all the noise. It's bad because it strips away any identity the Fediverse has and makes it a literal cheap copy of Reddit full of bot-reposted slop no one wants to engage with.

                  Instances are run by volunteers and rely on donations from users or in some cases the admins foot the bill entirely. It costs money to host Fediverse instances. Each sloppost from a repost bot takes up space in the database, consumes CPU resources sorting through it, bandwidth to federate it out, and takes up storage space with the local thumbnails. And that's just on the home instance where it originates. Add in the bandwidth to federate it out to who knows how many receiving instances which each also have to store it in the database and store the thumbnails.

                  It's just so much waste. And for what? It's just noise. Content for content's sake so someone can mindlessly scroll past stuff they'll never read.

                  If you feel this place lacks content, post something. Every time there's a new influx of users, some genius thinks "It's a lot quieter here than Reddit. I know! I'll write a script that reposts stuff from Reddit. People will love it! I can't believe no one has thought of this before! I'm so smart!"

                  If one wants that kind of slop, there are dedicated instances that do nothing but repost reddit garbage indiscriminately. alien.top and lemmit.online. Find an instance that federates with them (many instances de-federate from those because of the noise) or sign up there.

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                  • L lumpyluggage@lemmy.world

                    I'm new, why is this bad? I've seen quite a few complaints about the lack of content here already

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                    valar@lemmy.ca
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                    #9

                    No one engages with automated bot content

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                    • I ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works

                      Yeah, I typically just block them as well, it's so annoying.

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                      pinerune@lemmy.world
                      wrote last edited by
                      #10

                      Seeing this post really made me realize how much repost slop is on my Lemmy main page. I'm going to start blocking them when I see them too. If I wanted to see people's reddit slop, I'd just go to reddit.

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                      • V valar@lemmy.ca

                        No one engages with automated bot content

                        mimicjar@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        mimicjar@lemmy.world
                        wrote last edited by
                        #11

                        To add to that, no one WANTS to engage with automated bot content. The entire point of social media is to be... social.

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                        • L lumpyluggage@lemmy.world

                          I'm new, why is this bad? I've seen quite a few complaints about the lack of content here already

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                          cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                          wrote last edited by
                          #12

                          I saw your account is about the same age as mine. I started in .world and moved to dbzer0 within a year (so I've been on Lemmy for 3 years).

                          Lemmy today is no where near Lemmy 3 years ago. Repost bots aren't needed anymore. You could make the argument they were needed then but today, Lemmy has it's own culture, its own memes, its own communities, etc. a blind repost meme doesn't make sense anymore.

                          If you're tired of the same content, change your settings. I use top 6 hours new and it works perfect for me.

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                          • mimicjar@lemmy.worldM mimicjar@lemmy.world

                            To add to that, no one WANTS to engage with automated bot content. The entire point of social media is to be... social.

                            kolanaki@pawb.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            kolanaki@pawb.social
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                            #13

                            I've seen it argued, specifically against Reddit reposts (bot or not), that becsuse this isn't Reddit, the original poster won't get the answers/insight. But I don't see why that matters. We can have a discussion here based on a topic started there independant of the original conversation. And maybe the person (when it's an actual person) reposting it simply has the same idea/question.

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                            • icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI icedraktajino@startrek.website

                              Every time there's an influx. :bangs_head_against_wall:

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                              imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              :bangs_head_against_wall:

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                              • icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI icedraktajino@startrek.website

                                I'm not gonna out the user since that would put this post in violation of one of the rules here, but it appears they've set up camp and created their own communities to botspam to. I DM'd the admin of their home instance but who knows if they'll see a problem with it.

                                Edit/Update: That spammer now appears to be banned on their home instance.

                                For me, it's the people that come here and feel the need to bring all of Reddit with them. Like, do they also bring their shitty exes and all their baggage on dates with their new SO?

                                And it's not like instances are largely (entirely?) volunteer run and rely on donations or admins footing the bill for hosting. Oh, wait. They are. 18,200+ posts (as of this comment) from a two month old account with the associated thumbnail images, each federated out to who knows how many other instances that store copies and local thumbnails is a pretty clear abuse of the platform. I'd also wager that the userbot in question isn't donating to their home instance, either.

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                                mika@piefed.ca
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                                #15

                                Actually doesnt this raise scalability issues concern overall? Say if user count naturally increase x100 tomorrow.

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                                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK kolanaki@pawb.social

                                  I've seen it argued, specifically against Reddit reposts (bot or not), that becsuse this isn't Reddit, the original poster won't get the answers/insight. But I don't see why that matters. We can have a discussion here based on a topic started there independant of the original conversation. And maybe the person (when it's an actual person) reposting it simply has the same idea/question.

                                  mimicjar@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  mimicjar@lemmy.world
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                                  #16

                                  A repost is different. If you read something on Reddit (or anywhere) and you want to talk about it, posting it here is fine.

                                  But if you're just taking every post and posting it here, you probably don't actually care about all of them.

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                                  • icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI icedraktajino@startrek.website

                                    Beyond ridiculous.

                                    medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.world
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                                    Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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                                    • M mika@piefed.ca

                                      Actually doesnt this raise scalability issues concern overall? Say if user count naturally increase x100 tomorrow.

                                      icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      icedraktajino@startrek.website
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                                      #18

                                      Technically speaking, yeah.

                                      But the instances that run on donations are more likely to get donations to cover the growing hosting costs from a 100x increase in real users as opposed to one bot spammer spewing out 100+ user's worth of content each month. Ideally, that 100x increase won't be concentrated on a single instance and will be spread out among many instances.

                                      While the amount of content from such an increase would be the same, the posting patterns are more organic from real users compared to the indiscriminate torrent coming from people running bots to repost everything from Reddit. That allows for a lot more granular management of resources.

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                                      • icedraktajino@startrek.websiteI icedraktajino@startrek.website

                                        Beyond ridiculous.

                                        remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world
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                                        #19

                                        This place isn’t a popularity contest. I don’t get why someone would need to do this, unless they’re planning on /hailcorporate pushing product placement or troll-farming political views. You can have a high post or comment count, but nobody cares.

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                                        • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world

                                          This place isn’t a popularity contest. I don’t get why someone would need to do this, unless they’re planning on /hailcorporate pushing product placement or troll-farming political views. You can have a high post or comment count, but nobody cares.

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                                          icedraktajino@startrek.website
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                                          #20

                                          I've been here since the API exodus in 2023 and have seen it enough times to know that it's typically someone coming in new from reddit, seeing that the feed of new stuff here has an endpoint and recharges slower, so they want to make a repost bot so there's more content. They'll never actually read that content, but they just want it so they have something to mindlessly scroll past. I don't think they're going for popularity contest, at least not primarily, anyway.

                                          Giving them the benefit of doubt, I think they're just highly misguided.

                                          I could totally be wrong. This is just based on my observations and the occasional post in c/Fediverse when some new user talks about how it feels inactive here and suggests reposting crap from Reddit. I also try to go with the most charitable explanation for behavior I see.

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