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The Fediverse Only Makes Time for Real Artists

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  • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca
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    bootloop@sh.itjust.works
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    AI haters on Lemmy are good entertainment. Imagine adults getting mad because they discover what tool a meme was made with. Half the time they can't even tell.

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      spider89@lemmy.world
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      I'm a beginner at drawing, but I'd wager people would choose that over AI.

      Right?

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      • S spider89@lemmy.world

        I'm a beginner at drawing, but I'd wager people would choose that over AI.

        Right?

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        wizard_pope@lemmy.world
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        Exactly. I'd taoe funny concept crudely drawn stick figures over AI slop

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        • B bootloop@sh.itjust.works

          AI haters on Lemmy are good entertainment. Imagine adults getting mad because they discover what tool a meme was made with. Half the time they can't even tell.

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          axolotl_cpp@feddit.it
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          Most AI generated things is just shit, especially to look at, if you can't recognize 99% of AI generated images then there is a problem tbh.

          Thought it's real that sometimes people exaggerate and hate the use of AI for everthing when there are clearly some good uses.

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            darrinbrunner@lemmy.world
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            #6

            Like nearly everything else, there's a gray area. We don't need to reject generative AI images outright, although, that's the easiest path for lazy people--to see everything as black or white.

            On Christmas, I posted an AI photorealistic image of Bruce Willis and Alan Rickman dressed in pajamas in front of a Christmas tree arguing over a Lego Nakatomi Plaza kit. It's funny, and it doesn't hurt anyone. I think that's an acceptable use of generative AI images.

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            • darrinbrunner@lemmy.worldD darrinbrunner@lemmy.world

              Like nearly everything else, there's a gray area. We don't need to reject generative AI images outright, although, that's the easiest path for lazy people--to see everything as black or white.

              On Christmas, I posted an AI photorealistic image of Bruce Willis and Alan Rickman dressed in pajamas in front of a Christmas tree arguing over a Lego Nakatomi Plaza kit. It's funny, and it doesn't hurt anyone. I think that's an acceptable use of generative AI images.

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              a_union_of_kobolds@lemmy.world
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              There's no gray area about the resource cost and contribution to climate change being driven by gen AI though, youre just trying to justify it.

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                There's no gray area about the resource cost and contribution to climate change being driven by gen AI though, youre just trying to justify it.

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                ji59@hilariouschaos.com
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                I would say gen AI is much more resource friendly than hiring artists to do the same

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                • S spider89@lemmy.world

                  I'm a beginner at drawing, but I'd wager people would choose that over AI.

                  Right?

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                  gustofwind@lemmy.world
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                  I’d rather see absolutely nothing instead of AI

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                  • J ji59@hilariouschaos.com

                    I would say gen AI is much more resource friendly than hiring artists to do the same

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                    clockworkotter@lemmy.world
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                    Thing is though, artists are people.

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                    • S spider89@lemmy.world

                      I'm a beginner at drawing, but I'd wager people would choose that over AI.

                      Right?

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                      lastyearsirritant@sopuli.xyz
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                      If it's funny enough, the art is secondary. If the at is perfect, the joke still needs to be at least passable.

                      Just because it's human made, doesn't mean it's automatically good.

                      Sometimes the bad art becomes its own part of the joke (xkcd).

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                        callmeanai@lemmy.world
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                        #12

                        This place loves AI. Constantly tossed in my feed.

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                        • J ji59@hilariouschaos.com

                          I would say gen AI is much more resource friendly than hiring artists to do the same

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                          nomy@lemmy.zip
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                          What would you base that supposition on?

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                          • C clockworkotter@lemmy.world

                            Thing is though, artists are people.

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                            callmeanai@lemmy.world
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                            They can do something more productive.

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                            • darrinbrunner@lemmy.worldD darrinbrunner@lemmy.world

                              Like nearly everything else, there's a gray area. We don't need to reject generative AI images outright, although, that's the easiest path for lazy people--to see everything as black or white.

                              On Christmas, I posted an AI photorealistic image of Bruce Willis and Alan Rickman dressed in pajamas in front of a Christmas tree arguing over a Lego Nakatomi Plaza kit. It's funny, and it doesn't hurt anyone. I think that's an acceptable use of generative AI images.

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                              deadcream@sopuli.xyz
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                              #15

                              Generative ai is just a tool for creating text and images. Not everything created using is art, just like not every piece of text written by a human or an bunch of pixels drawn in photoshop is art. What matters is intention of the author, the effort put in and whether other people perceive it as art.

                              It silly to call everything created by ai as art, but not because of the tool used. Most of it is not art simply because it was not created for that purpose, it is there for pure silly entertainment.

                              It is equally silly to vehemently hate it if the creator does not even claim it's art.

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                              • B bootloop@sh.itjust.works

                                AI haters on Lemmy are good entertainment. Imagine adults getting mad because they discover what tool a meme was made with. Half the time they can't even tell.

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                                jhex@lemmy.world
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                                people can't tell when I spit onetheir food… I guess that means it's perfectly fine for them to eat spit, right?… good to know

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                                • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca
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                                  lvxferre@mander.xyz
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                                  #17

                                  The lack of karma also does wonders in this. It means people sharing AI-generated content will do it when they genuinely think others will enjoy it, so it's only a handful of pictures that turned out good. They won't for example mass produce them to farm upvotes here.

                                  EDIT: I know sunshine is talking about a PieFed feature, and what I'm saying applies to Lemmy and Piefed. Point still stands, no karma = no reason to farm karma.

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                                  • S spider89@lemmy.world

                                    I'm a beginner at drawing, but I'd wager people would choose that over AI.

                                    Right?

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                                    lvxferre@mander.xyz
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                                    I've got people praising my poorly drawn graphs, of all things. 5min stuff like this:

                                    So yes, odds are they'll like your drawings better over mass produced AI slop.

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                                      There's no gray area about the resource cost and contribution to climate change being driven by gen AI though, youre just trying to justify it.

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                                      lvxferre@mander.xyz
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                                      I do think you're raising valid concerns regarding resource consumption + climate change. However:

                                      youre just trying to justify it.

                                      Learn to phrase things without disingenuously putting words into the others' mouths dammit. This is not Reddit, behave like a decent person instead of a redditor. Nothing the other user said can be even remotely interpreted as "the energy cost is justified", in fact they didn't even talk about resource consumption.

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                                      • lvxferre@mander.xyzL lvxferre@mander.xyz

                                        I've got people praising my poorly drawn graphs, of all things. 5min stuff like this:

                                        So yes, odds are they'll like your drawings better over mass produced AI slop.

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                                        rebekahwsd@lemmy.world
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                                        I understood this and now my back hurts!

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                                        • lvxferre@mander.xyzL lvxferre@mander.xyz

                                          I do think you're raising valid concerns regarding resource consumption + climate change. However:

                                          youre just trying to justify it.

                                          Learn to phrase things without disingenuously putting words into the others' mouths dammit. This is not Reddit, behave like a decent person instead of a redditor. Nothing the other user said can be even remotely interpreted as "the energy cost is justified", in fact they didn't even talk about resource consumption.

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                                          manjushri@piefed.social
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                                          It’s funny, and it doesn’t hurt anyone.

                                          It sure sounds to me like they were trying to justify it. Funny or not, if it hurts everyone so no, it's not a justified use. Hurting anyone, let alone everyone, just for the lolz is far from acceptable.

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