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The Fediverse Only Makes Time for Real Artists

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  • gustofwind@lemmy.worldG gustofwind@lemmy.world

    I’d rather see absolutely nothing instead of AI

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    woodscientist@lemmy.world
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    #79

    You want someone to look at your AI art? Simple. Just make an LLM look at it. If AI produces it, AI can be the one that has to look at it.

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    • N notasharkinamansuit@lemmy.world

      That’s a lot of fucking words that all just boil down to “I have no artistic or moral integrity and no respect or regard for the value of art or the human endeavor.”

      Go fuck a robot.

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      ji59@hilariouschaos.com
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      #80

      This shows me how hateful and stubborn you are. I never said (and nobody in this comment chain) that gen-AI is better then artists. Of course I agree with how unfairly AI companies treat artists and that they should be supperted.
      The only thing I said was that I think gen-AI uses less power and so should be more environmentally friendly. Then you asked for proof, so I gave you a proof. The proof was based on a lot so assumptions, so it could be wrong, but it is still better then saying "I don't like AI, so it must be worse in every way".

      It seems insane to me that most people in here refuse to admit that there could be one single perspective in which AI is better, there is one single example where it is useful...

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      • lvxferre@mander.xyzL lvxferre@mander.xyz

        I've got people praising my poorly drawn graphs, of all things. 5min stuff like this:

        So yes, odds are they'll like your drawings better over mass produced AI slop.

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        comfy@lemmy.ml
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        #81

        One quickly learns that drawings don't have to be detailed or experienced to be appreciated. Sure, it absolutely helps, learn what techniques make art more beautiful so you can punch above your weight, but I've received compliments from quick minimal doodles just by having fun with it.

        a very basic black line drawing of a wobbly server tower, with its power cable being gnawed on my a mouse

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        • Y yellowparenti@lemmy.wtf

          In the beginning, people used simple programs like ms paint with a mouse to draw. I use my phone's editor to draw stuff. Have a cat

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          comfy@lemmy.ml
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          #82

          Without the ears and with broad paws, it nicely doubles as a sea lion.

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          • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

            After the first 100 or so AI images I saw, the novelty of "wow this is technically possible" wore off and now I kind of hate anything generated by ai even if it looks good (which it usually doesn't).

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            aloofpenguin@lemmy.world
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            #83

            Same here. AI slop has turned me (and my brother) off of YouTube shorts. Like 80-90% of the content is AI, and you have to play detective for most of them (to find out it's AI generated)

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            • soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone

              We're going to need a Butlerian jihad at the rate this is going.

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              underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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              #84

              James Cameron should have directed the Dune prequels

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              • A aloofpenguin@lemmy.world

                Same here. AI slop has turned me (and my brother) off of YouTube shorts. Like 80-90% of the content is AI, and you have to play detective for most of them (to find out it's AI generated)

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                dfx4509b@lemmy.wtf
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                #85

                YT in general is increasingly becoming scam central in terms of AI-generated content.

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                • comfy@lemmy.mlC comfy@lemmy.ml

                  Without the ears and with broad paws, it nicely doubles as a sea lion.

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                  jankatarch@lemmy.world
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                  #86

                  I think I just understood what "abstract art" actually means. Holy hell.

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                  • K krooklochurm@lemmy.ca

                    I wouldn't call anything I've ever seen on lemmy art. Maybe like2 the photos of actual art.

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                    gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    #87

                    Never seen someone tell on themselves like this so hard

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                    • dfx4509b@lemmy.wtfD dfx4509b@lemmy.wtf

                      I consider myself to be alright by hobbyist standards, at least, but here's a watercolor and watercolor crayon painting of a pair of bunnies skating on a frozen pond at night.

                      And yeah, I kinda love watercolor crayons as a medium, at least in combination with watercolors, and I'm a newbie to watercolor crayons.

                      Plus, here's an acrylic painting of a mouse building a snowman at night for a bonus pic, and yeah, I know the snow and mouse are supposed to be white, but I gave that whole scene a pink/purple tint for the sake of cuteness.

                      Also, I very, very much have a preference for traditional media over digital tools mainly because traditional media have always been fun for me to play with, painting in particular I tend to get lost in for hours at a time.

                      Finally, I'm adding a wax crayon drawing to this post because why not, but here's a wax crayon drawing of Pichu and Dedenne building a snowman, and I'll stop here before this post gets too spammy. And just like with the mouse painting above, I gave this scene a pink/purple tint because that's cute, also, wax crayons are one of my fave drawing media currently alongside oil pastels and chalk in any order.

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                      cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.works
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                      These are cute as fuck and I love them! Definitely understand the appeal of traditional media over digital (my stuff's digital mostly because of accessibility).

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                      • cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.worksC cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.works

                        These are cute as fuck and I love them! Definitely understand the appeal of traditional media over digital (my stuff's digital mostly because of accessibility).

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                        dfx4509b@lemmy.wtf
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                        #89

                        Thanks! And I'd argue that traditional is more accessible on some metrics than digital, eg. having a lower entry fee because you can just get a box of crayons and a pad of paper for a pittance and go to town, vs. three figures at minimum for a usable PC to do digital stuff on, for example.

                        You can even get a set of paints and some brushes for pretty cheap if you're interested in that as well; craft paints will do just fine for acrylics, for example, although you'll want some heavy watercolor paper or at the very least construction paper for a working surface that can handle wet media reliably, plus paints in general can get kinda messy for something else to be aware of, but that's a big part of why they're fun.

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                          thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          i should try piefed

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                          • K krooklochurm@lemmy.ca

                            I wouldn't call anything I've ever seen on lemmy art. Maybe like2 the photos of actual art.

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                            greenknight23@lemmy.world
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                            #91

                            I've seen lots of art on here.

                            seen lots of jokes too...

                            1000002699

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                            • A aloofpenguin@lemmy.world

                              Same here. AI slop has turned me (and my brother) off of YouTube shorts. Like 80-90% of the content is AI, and you have to play detective for most of them (to find out it's AI generated)

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                              trickdacy@lemmy.world
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                              I was just trying to research some games on YouTube, and a disgusting amount of videos are ai generated 🤮

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                              • J ji59@hilariouschaos.com

                                This shows me how hateful and stubborn you are. I never said (and nobody in this comment chain) that gen-AI is better then artists. Of course I agree with how unfairly AI companies treat artists and that they should be supperted.
                                The only thing I said was that I think gen-AI uses less power and so should be more environmentally friendly. Then you asked for proof, so I gave you a proof. The proof was based on a lot so assumptions, so it could be wrong, but it is still better then saying "I don't like AI, so it must be worse in every way".

                                It seems insane to me that most people in here refuse to admit that there could be one single perspective in which AI is better, there is one single example where it is useful...

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                                notasharkinamansuit@lemmy.world
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                                If you have to bend over that far backwards to try to get one tiny element of something to not sound abhorrent then maybe question what the fuck exactly it is that you are defending.

                                Again, go fuck a robot.

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                                • N notasharkinamansuit@lemmy.world

                                  If you have to bend over that far backwards to try to get one tiny element of something to not sound abhorrent then maybe question what the fuck exactly it is that you are defending.

                                  Again, go fuck a robot.

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                                  ji59@hilariouschaos.com
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                                  Just tell me, what you think I am defending... I said that I support human artists in this fight. But everything has its pros and cons. I am defending the fact that one of the pros of gen-AI is that it is (according to my calculations) greener. It is also faster. That's all I am saying. I am not saying these pros outweight the cons, I'm just saying, this is advantagious about gen-AI. Maybe the question is why you refuse to admit there are any pros of gen-AI and why you assume everyone who disagrees a little bit with you has to be wrong and completely on the other side of the argument.

                                  There is nothing wrong with admitting there is something good in something I hate. For example I hate cars in cities, mainly the big ones, but I use them often, because in the current state they are the most efficient mean of transfer. I hate Trump, but have to admit, he is sometimes right...

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                                  • B belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org

                                    Block ai content posters. Starve them and they stop

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                                    mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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                                    I can't wait until the free rides end and they finally understand how much their slop actually costs.

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                                    • cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.worksC cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.works

                                      Man, I suuuuck at drawing and painting. But (up until the last couple weeks I guess) I've been making and posting my shitty ass, MS Paintesque paintings and collages. Why?

                                      Because you and I are humans and creative expression is our fucking right.

                                      Because you don't get better at anything unless you keep doing it.

                                      Because people, at least here, prefer a technically shitty artistic effort to a better looking image made by a insanely thirsty software architecture owned by greedy technocrats.

                                      Because fuck it, we can.

                                      Post those drawings homie.

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                                      spider89@lemmy.world
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                                      Uh... Where, exactly?

                                      ::: spoiler (Rough drawing of a confused girl.)

                                      I'm not very good.. •_•
                                      :::

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                                      • dfx4509b@lemmy.wtfD dfx4509b@lemmy.wtf

                                        Thanks! And I'd argue that traditional is more accessible on some metrics than digital, eg. having a lower entry fee because you can just get a box of crayons and a pad of paper for a pittance and go to town, vs. three figures at minimum for a usable PC to do digital stuff on, for example.

                                        You can even get a set of paints and some brushes for pretty cheap if you're interested in that as well; craft paints will do just fine for acrylics, for example, although you'll want some heavy watercolor paper or at the very least construction paper for a working surface that can handle wet media reliably, plus paints in general can get kinda messy for something else to be aware of, but that's a big part of why they're fun.

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                                        cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.works
                                        wrote last edited by cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.works
                                        #97

                                        Good point, and I understand where you're coming from. My counterpoint is basically "the best tools to start making art are the ones you already have".

                                        In my case, I had a phone and the ability to download Pocket Paint (think OSS MS Paint), and that's what got me started. For others, it might be basic paints and paper/cheap canvas from a dollar store. For others, it might be crude pigments made from old coffee grounds and charcoal remnants from a hobo fire they came across, applied to junk mail newspaper with kitchen utensils. For still others, it could be a rock and another, harder rock for etching.

                                        Shit, there's people out there making paintings with Excel.

                                        You can always explore different techniques and materials as your interests develop and/or budget allows, but for the person who just wants to start making something, whatever you have on hand that captures your fancy is the best first choice IMO.

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                                          aliceblossom@lemmy.world
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                                          Is there a client? Or does everyone just use the webapp?

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