You look a bit skinny, son.
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I think what we can try to do is to create an active community.
In the old place, I recognized I really came for the comments. That's why I try to keep my threshold for commenting low and comment often.
Even if it's just to thank someone for a good comment or other low effort commenting, I like to think it helps.
Ugh that’s a really good point. I need to work on more ‘whatever’ throw away comments
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It's that live now for Piefed.social ?
Yep, it's live.
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Honestly, this is fine. This is a healthy community. If we had an exponential growth curve, the AI bots, clout-chasting influencers, marketers and data-mining scrapers would be all over these instances, and Lemmy frankly has very poor tools to deal with it.
There aren't the niche communities, I agree that that's regrettable. But we really do run into scaling problems.
There is a slow decline though. I don't want exponential growth, but growth is important imo at this stage
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I'm getting Déjà vu as it reminds me of someone on Mastodon posting a graph of Mastodon's daily users going down. Can't remember if it OP of that post (Mastodon post, not this Lemmy one) or a news article that was like "Is this a downfall for Mastodon?". Nope, it's still around and I will argue, Mastodon is at it's own lane which feels unfair it get compared to Twitter which feels like an Apple and Oranges compassion
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Staff. I don't think I can do that. I can check later
Ah, I misremembered!
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Yep, it's live.
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Clicks "All", "Top Six Hours"
- Sees impersonal biased news sources reporting how bad the world is
- Every post repetition of the one above it
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Clicks "Comments"
- Scrolls for a while
- Finds one person talking about how good their day is or one topic they're passionate about
I blocked all the news channels, location channels (since they're 90% news anyways), and a few extra that kept getting bad news related comments or trollish crap, and the top feeds are usually pretty good. They don't change too much over a day, but at least it no longer feels like doomscrolling.
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Clicks "All", "Top Six Hours"
- Sees impersonal biased news sources reporting how bad the world is
- Every post repetition of the one above it
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Clicks "Comments"
- Scrolls for a while
- Finds one person talking about how good their day is or one topic they're passionate about
- !casualconversation@piefed.social
- !wholesome@reddthat.com
- !nicememes@sopuli.xyz
Also, consider switching to Piefed to be able to use the built-in keyword filter. I haven't seen US news since using it.
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I blocked all the news channels, location channels (since they're 90% news anyways), and a few extra that kept getting bad news related comments or trollish crap, and the top feeds are usually pretty good. They don't change too much over a day, but at least it no longer feels like doomscrolling.
It's great that we can individually curate our feeds but what I think the person you replied to is highlighting is that the first impressions a new user may get is repetitive doomer content. That's the nature of sorting by all and our instance-based approach, but it's definitely an experience which may put new people off
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- !casualconversation@piefed.social
- !wholesome@reddthat.com
- !nicememes@sopuli.xyz
Also, consider switching to Piefed to be able to use the built-in keyword filter. I haven't seen US news since using it.
You know, I had an idea for another keywords filter for feeds. It works in reverse. You type in keywords you want to see in posts and it then makes you a feed comprised of posts of that nature.
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We definitely need better onboarding. I am pushing for this on piefed via directs to newcomers@piefed.zip for new users to introduce themselves
I'm not a programmer so I can't speak to how hard this is, but I think it would be a big asset to building user base if there was a neutral sign up website that wasn't a specific instance. It would basically choose an instance for you automatically and skip that part. I figure there could be some list of general purpose instances compiled that are all fair game and the site would try to spread the load across instances.
Average user doesn't care about federation, and all of that complexity is a big turn off. I know because I almost didn't sign up myself because of that. Having to pick a team just to get in the door feels kinda bad.
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You know, I had an idea for another keywords filter for feeds. It works in reverse. You type in keywords you want to see in posts and it then makes you a feed comprised of posts of that nature.
That would be nice
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I think what we can try to do is to create an active community.
In the old place, I recognized I really came for the comments. That's why I try to keep my threshold for commenting low and comment often.
Even if it's just to thank someone for a good comment or other low effort commenting, I like to think it helps.
Thank you for your service. I agree with you on the issue, but am a bit afraid that if more people onboard here, the threads will be just the same reddit hivemind circlejerk like ”i also choose this guys wife” etc. But since there is no karma to gain here I wish it will stay like this.
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Unlimited growth is capitalist mindset. Stability and community are what we value here.
And yet the graph is going down...
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Clicks "All", "Top Six Hours"
- Sees impersonal biased news sources reporting how bad the world is
- Every post repetition of the one above it
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Clicks "Comments"
- Scrolls for a while
- Finds one person talking about how good their day is or one topic they're passionate about
Nail, meet head. This is the Lemmy experience.
Reddit was big enough for people to have different interests and, here is the kicker, the subreddit system was a perfect way to separate the people that didn't give a shit about a subject and those that did.
There was life besides /all
If you remove /all from Lemmy you have, maybe, 3-4 communities that post with any regularity. Within those there are maybe 2 people in total that post.
It's turning to shit. A complete and utter echo chamber.
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And yet the graph is going down...
People have started using Piefed insted of Lemmy, but I'm not sure we should throw away hope for the fediverse because of that.
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And yet the graph is going down...
People will come in waves, some will share the same mindset and others will seek out more dopamine centric engagement.
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Nail, meet head. This is the Lemmy experience.
Reddit was big enough for people to have different interests and, here is the kicker, the subreddit system was a perfect way to separate the people that didn't give a shit about a subject and those that did.
There was life besides /all
If you remove /all from Lemmy you have, maybe, 3-4 communities that post with any regularity. Within those there are maybe 2 people in total that post.
It's turning to shit. A complete and utter echo chamber.
I don't know that a lack of users across the platform to support nicher topics necessarily justifies the charge of "echo chamber". They are two different things.
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I used to post everywhere.
Every single time that I go through the effort to contribute to another small community i somehow break some fucking rule and my post is removed despite there being 0 activity on that space for days.
Every time this happens, I block the space because it's a horrible experience to try to create content for the fediverse.
It feels the exact same as reddit, and the more mod and admin abuse that keeps happening, the more people will keep leaving and poating less.
Honestly, the next time I get a fucking un replyable automod message on this space that is "suppsed to be better than reddit" I think I am done contributing to the fediverse.
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And yet the graph is going down...
Nah its basically stable. Green is monthly which fluctuates with seasons (more people in northern hemisphere and spend more time online in winter months). The blue line is yearly rolling average and the initial spike takes a long time to work though giving impression of gradual decline.
