You look a bit skinny, son.
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We definitely need better onboarding. I am pushing for this on piefed via directs to newcomers@piefed.zip for new users to introduce themselves
I'm not a programmer so I can't speak to how hard this is, but I think it would be a big asset to building user base if there was a neutral sign up website that wasn't a specific instance. It would basically choose an instance for you automatically and skip that part. I figure there could be some list of general purpose instances compiled that are all fair game and the site would try to spread the load across instances.
Average user doesn't care about federation, and all of that complexity is a big turn off. I know because I almost didn't sign up myself because of that. Having to pick a team just to get in the door feels kinda bad.
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You know, I had an idea for another keywords filter for feeds. It works in reverse. You type in keywords you want to see in posts and it then makes you a feed comprised of posts of that nature.
That would be nice
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I think what we can try to do is to create an active community.
In the old place, I recognized I really came for the comments. That's why I try to keep my threshold for commenting low and comment often.
Even if it's just to thank someone for a good comment or other low effort commenting, I like to think it helps.
Thank you for your service. I agree with you on the issue, but am a bit afraid that if more people onboard here, the threads will be just the same reddit hivemind circlejerk like ”i also choose this guys wife” etc. But since there is no karma to gain here I wish it will stay like this.
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Unlimited growth is capitalist mindset. Stability and community are what we value here.
And yet the graph is going down...
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Clicks "All", "Top Six Hours"
- Sees impersonal biased news sources reporting how bad the world is
- Every post repetition of the one above it
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Clicks "Comments"
- Scrolls for a while
- Finds one person talking about how good their day is or one topic they're passionate about
Nail, meet head. This is the Lemmy experience.
Reddit was big enough for people to have different interests and, here is the kicker, the subreddit system was a perfect way to separate the people that didn't give a shit about a subject and those that did.
There was life besides /all
If you remove /all from Lemmy you have, maybe, 3-4 communities that post with any regularity. Within those there are maybe 2 people in total that post.
It's turning to shit. A complete and utter echo chamber.
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And yet the graph is going down...
People have started using Piefed insted of Lemmy, but I'm not sure we should throw away hope for the fediverse because of that.
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And yet the graph is going down...
People will come in waves, some will share the same mindset and others will seek out more dopamine centric engagement.
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Nail, meet head. This is the Lemmy experience.
Reddit was big enough for people to have different interests and, here is the kicker, the subreddit system was a perfect way to separate the people that didn't give a shit about a subject and those that did.
There was life besides /all
If you remove /all from Lemmy you have, maybe, 3-4 communities that post with any regularity. Within those there are maybe 2 people in total that post.
It's turning to shit. A complete and utter echo chamber.
I don't know that a lack of users across the platform to support nicher topics necessarily justifies the charge of "echo chamber". They are two different things.
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I used to post everywhere.
Every single time that I go through the effort to contribute to another small community i somehow break some fucking rule and my post is removed despite there being 0 activity on that space for days.
Every time this happens, I block the space because it's a horrible experience to try to create content for the fediverse.
It feels the exact same as reddit, and the more mod and admin abuse that keeps happening, the more people will keep leaving and poating less.
Honestly, the next time I get a fucking un replyable automod message on this space that is "suppsed to be better than reddit" I think I am done contributing to the fediverse.
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And yet the graph is going down...
Nah its basically stable. Green is monthly which fluctuates with seasons (more people in northern hemisphere and spend more time online in winter months). The blue line is yearly rolling average and the initial spike takes a long time to work though giving impression of gradual decline.
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This is fine. We don't need lemmy or the fediverse to take over completely immediately.
It's a good working prototype that's not a complete ghost town and that's good enough for now. It doesn't need to win everywhere immediately, it's fine if it's a working solution we can point to and new communities can be created if some people decide to and they won't exist in a complete vacuum.
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Unlimited growth is capitalist mindset. Stability and community are what we value here.
The fediverse has been feeling really good lately. It's actually getting hard to scroll to the end of the frontpage.
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You know, I had an idea for another keywords filter for feeds. It works in reverse. You type in keywords you want to see in posts and it then makes you a feed comprised of posts of that nature.
Doesn't mastodon have that? You type in a keyword and then you add it as a "user."
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Getting too big would attract the bots, corpos, and everything else that has ruined the internet. I'm fine with staying small.
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- !casualconversation@piefed.social
- !wholesome@reddthat.com
- !nicememes@sopuli.xyz
Also, consider switching to Piefed to be able to use the built-in keyword filter. I haven't seen US news since using it.
Along with the newcomers comm I'm thinking about making those as default comms that new people are subscribed to.
Gotta balance out the doom.
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It's great that we can individually curate our feeds but what I think the person you replied to is highlighting is that the first impressions a new user may get is repetitive doomer content. That's the nature of sorting by all and our instance-based approach, but it's definitely an experience which may put new people off
Yea it is definitely a bit offputting. I'm not sure what the fix is given the world is quite shit right now. Most news is going to be less than great, so I guess we need more non-news content to help drown out the BS.
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That would be nice
@rimu@piefed.social is this something hypothetically possible?
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I don't know that a lack of users across the platform to support nicher topics necessarily justifies the charge of "echo chamber". They are two different things.
Because the only ones that are left post the same shit over, and over again. When people leave because the feed gets repetitive, they also leave the niche that they might have been interested in.
Then you get an echo chamber.
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Along with the newcomers comm I'm thinking about making those as default comms that new people are subscribed to.
Gotta balance out the doom.
Good idea!
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I used to post everywhere.
Every single time that I go through the effort to contribute to another small community i somehow break some fucking rule and my post is removed despite there being 0 activity on that space for days.
Every time this happens, I block the space because it's a horrible experience to try to create content for the fediverse.
It feels the exact same as reddit, and the more mod and admin abuse that keeps happening, the more people will keep leaving and poating less.
Honestly, the next time I get a fucking un replyable automod message on this space that is "suppsed to be better than reddit" I think I am done contributing to the fediverse.
