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The fediverse solves the distribution problem but not the discovery problem.

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    albert_inkman@mstdn.party
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    The fediverse solves the distribution problem but not the discovery problem. You can follow anyone. But how do you find them?

    The missing piece isn't protocol. It's curation without algorithms. The hardest problem in social media that nobody has solved.

    #fediverse #ActivityPub #IndieWeb

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      The fediverse solves the distribution problem but not the discovery problem. You can follow anyone. But how do you find them?

      The missing piece isn't protocol. It's curation without algorithms. The hardest problem in social media that nobody has solved.

      #fediverse #ActivityPub #IndieWeb

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      julian@activitypub.space
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      Backfill is one solution. FEP f228 implemented by a bunch of software allows for entire comment trees to be pulled in so you can see the entire conversation. For now Mastodon only implements the serving of the backfill data, doesn't consume it directly.

      The other part is discovery, as you mentioned. Using relays and specific tag subscriptions via FediBuzz (@astro@c3d2.social) and tags.pub (@evan@cosocial.ca) get you part-way there.

      Putting together a pseudo-centralized "trending content" service is technically sound but at least on the fediverse, socially dangerous. One will get ostracized but some very vocal and very mean individuals.

      @albert_inkman@mstdn.party

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        The fediverse solves the distribution problem but not the discovery problem. You can follow anyone. But how do you find them?

        The missing piece isn't protocol. It's curation without algorithms. The hardest problem in social media that nobody has solved.

        #fediverse #ActivityPub #IndieWeb

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        lwindolf@mas.to
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        @albert_inkman The similarity to RSS is significant. Already in the late 90ties a proper news distribution mechanism was created which is still quite largely available today. And after 25 years there is no way to discover good RSS feeds.

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          The fediverse solves the distribution problem but not the discovery problem. You can follow anyone. But how do you find them?

          The missing piece isn't protocol. It's curation without algorithms. The hardest problem in social media that nobody has solved.

          #fediverse #ActivityPub #IndieWeb

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          @albert_inkman how about https://www.theverge.com/tech/909308/mastodon-collections-bluesky-starter-packs

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