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The Block is Watered Down

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  • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

    Nope - it is far worse than that, it also does not block messages either, only communities.

    And worse than that even is that it used to do so, but the so-called "instance block" has actually gotten weaker over time. Imagine receiving notifications to your inbox for WEEKS and WEEKS upon making what you thought was a fairly innocuous comment in Chapotraphouse... and then going through all that again on Lemmygrad.ml! Purity beatings will continue until morale improves.

    If you don't like let's say Lemmy.ml, then you are free to either block each and every single user on it individually (which one guy, ptz, actually did that! 🤣), or you are free to leave Lemmy itself (which I did myself, and am now enjoying the fantastic experience on PieFed! ❣️), or if you can find one you may join an instance that defederates from them (note that no major instances are willing to do so). Welcome to Reddit 2.0! Remember not to say anything bad about Russia, China, or North Korea or you'll be instance-wide banned from communities that you've never even heard of before! 😛

    The "instance block" really is horribly misnamed - it should have been called a "community muting" imho. Oh well, what do I know, and here I thought that Lemmy.ml was a community for FOSS enthusiasts, hur-dur I wonder where I could have gotten that silly idea from!? 🤪

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    mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    And don't you dare say ML has a reputation for banning people, because ML will ban you for that.

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    • G gigachad@piefed.social

      I love complicated! I am trying to understand. Let's say I have blocked lemmy.ml:

      • a ml won't see a post I submitted to piefed.social, and also I don't see a post they submitted to piefed.social
      • ml user posting to lemmy.world can be seen by me and also sees my post to Lemmy.world
      • I cannot interact with lemmy.ml (makes sense)
      • A post crossposted from lemmy.world to piefed.social by a ml user can be seen by me

      Did I get it right? This is of course a purely hypothetical scenario, I would never speak bad about our great tankie leaders from lemmy.ml

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      diva@lemmy.ml
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      • G gigachad@piefed.social

        I love complicated! I am trying to understand. Let's say I have blocked lemmy.ml:

        • a ml won't see a post I submitted to piefed.social, and also I don't see a post they submitted to piefed.social
        • ml user posting to lemmy.world can be seen by me and also sees my post to Lemmy.world
        • I cannot interact with lemmy.ml (makes sense)
        • A post crossposted from lemmy.world to piefed.social by a ml user can be seen by me

        Did I get it right? This is of course a purely hypothetical scenario, I would never speak bad about our great tankie leaders from lemmy.ml

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        tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        #32

        i blocked the tankie instances, but it wont stop tankie accounts from being seen by you, if they comment on another instance. they only pose a problem if they post outside of tech related posts.

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        • rimu@piefed.socialR rimu@piefed.social

          No, we check your blocklist before sending and just don't send there if it's an instance you've blocked.

          asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA This user is from outside of this forum
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          asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
          wrote last edited by
          #33

          So the user's instance sends the activity? The community's instance doesn't do the sending?

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          • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de

            They made a typo. It's 0.19.12.

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            fxomt@anarchist.nexus
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            #34

            fuck i didn't notice lol, thank you for the correction; edited

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            • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev

              So the user's instance sends the activity? The community's instance doesn't do the sending?

              rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              rimu@piefed.social
              wrote last edited by
              #35

              Oh, now I see what you're getting at. No, if the user and the community are on different instances then the community instance wouldn't know what the user has blocked. What I said earlier assumes you're posting on a local community.

              But honestly why wouldn't everyone just be a piefed.social user and post exclusively in piefed.social communities? 😉 /s

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              • rimu@piefed.socialR rimu@piefed.social

                Oh, now I see what you're getting at. No, if the user and the community are on different instances then the community instance wouldn't know what the user has blocked. What I said earlier assumes you're posting on a local community.

                But honestly why wouldn't everyone just be a piefed.social user and post exclusively in piefed.social communities? 😉 /s

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                asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
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                #36

                Ah okay, got it. Thanks for the info. Sorry for the previous misunderstanding.

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                • rimu@piefed.socialR rimu@piefed.social

                  Yes, I think so.

                  Although this one: ml user posting to lemmy.world can be seen by me and also sees my post to Lemmy.world - I'm not sure about that. I doubt you'd see anything posted by a .ml user.

                  Defederation is another layer of blocking and it works almost the same but slightly differently too.

                  Honestly I haven't systematically tested all the possible combinations of settings and all the different places where it might have an effect on other instances. It's a lot. Also most of the blocking code was written almost 2 years ago so it's not something I look at often anymore.

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                  donnydorko@midwest.social
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                  #37

                  So on Pyfedi, does the instance have two layers of blocking? Meaning, "block" and "defederation," or is blocking only for users?

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                  • D donnydorko@midwest.social

                    So on Pyfedi, does the instance have two layers of blocking? Meaning, "block" and "defederation," or is blocking only for users?

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                    blaze@lemmy.zip
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                    #38

                    Blocking is a the user level

                    Defederation is at the instance level

                    (and it's called Piefed)

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                    • flyberius@hexbear.netF flyberius@hexbear.net

                      thinkin-lenin

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                      irelephant@anarchist.nexus
                      wrote last edited by
                      #39

                      Piefed doesn't size emojis correctly yet, so they're oversized here.

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