Pre-Alpha ActivityPub-related bug reports
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I'm getting this delivery failure trying to send a follow to a category inbox
[Discourse Activity Pub] POST request to https://community.nodebb.org/category/31/inbox failed: Expected([200, 201, 202]) <=> Actual(400 Bad Request) [Discourse Activity Pub] https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ap/actor/797217cf18c0e819dfafc52425590146 failed to deliver to https://community.nodebb.org/category/31/inbox id: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ap/activity/02feb8d245fa780e4683d03015f1b41e type: Follow to: https://community.nodebb.org/category/31 cc: - https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public published: '2024-04-05T18:09:14Z' updated: '2024-04-05T18:09:14Z' actor: !ruby/hash:ActiveSupport::HashWithIndifferentAccess id: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ap/actor/797217cf18c0e819dfafc52425590146 type: Group updated: '2024-04-05T12:49:51Z' url: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/c/meeting/threadiverse-wg/88 name: Threadiverse Working Group (SocialHub) inbox: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ap/actor/797217cf18c0e819dfafc52425590146/inbox outbox: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ap/actor/797217cf18c0e819dfafc52425590146/outbox followers: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ap/actor/797217cf18c0e819dfafc52425590146/followers preferredUsername: threadiverse-wg ...@Angus-McLeod did it just send a 400 or was there an error message involved in the response?
Edit: I added some additional debugging to the S2S validation logic. Can you try to follow
@general-discussion@bb.devnull.land? That instance is my testing instance and is a little quieter. -
@Angus-McLeod did it just send a 400 or was there an error message involved in the response?
Edit: I added some additional debugging to the S2S validation logic. Can you try to follow
@general-discussion@bb.devnull.land? That instance is my testing instance and is a little quieter.@julian I've just sent a few follows from my local to @general-discussion@bb.devnull.land. The code is again 400 and the error message is just "Bad request". I know our follows work with Mastodon (and other Discourse instances), but nevertheless there could be an issue on either end here. Lmk if you find anything in the logs about why it's being rejected.
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@skyfoxx @AltCode@social.vivaldi.net I... don't know what I did, but kbin.social is down now! Oh boy.
@julian said in Pre-Alpha ActivityPub-related bug reports:
but kbin.social is down now! Oh boy.
Happy to test any scenarios you have!
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I may regret creating this topic but here goes.
If you experience a bug or other unexpected behavior while using NodeBB and its related ActivityPub integration, please post it here so it can be tracked and resolved.
No formal process as of yet, and we're still at pre-alpha so expect many things to be broken or unavailable
what is the difference between posts and topics?
topics are "toot"s and posts are both "toot"s and "comments" ?
additionally, when I click the posts, url fails; however, clicking topics works...
clicking posts are taking me here: https://community.nodebb.org/post/https://mas.to/users/Techaltar/statuses/112270974822779415
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I may regret creating this topic but here goes.
If you experience a bug or other unexpected behavior while using NodeBB and its related ActivityPub integration, please post it here so it can be tracked and resolved.
No formal process as of yet, and we're still at pre-alpha so expect many things to be broken or unavailable
When you click on the world/all icon, the world/curated icon also highlights
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I may regret creating this topic but here goes.
If you experience a bug or other unexpected behavior while using NodeBB and its related ActivityPub integration, please post it here so it can be tracked and resolved.
No formal process as of yet, and we're still at pre-alpha so expect many things to be broken or unavailable
Error 405 Not Allowed after trying to reply and hitting Submit button.
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Error 405 Not Allowed after trying to reply and hitting Submit button.
@nhl.pl That's a weird one, are you still seeing that issue when replying to that topic? I wonder if it was a transient error.
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When you click on the world/all icon, the world/curated icon also highlights
@the-skyfoxx said in Pre-Alpha ActivityPub-related bug reports:
When you click on the world/all icon, the world/curated icon also highlights
Thanks, given that I'm going to remove the
/world/allroute altogether, this should no longer be an issue
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I may regret creating this topic but here goes.
If you experience a bug or other unexpected behavior while using NodeBB and its related ActivityPub integration, please post it here so it can be tracked and resolved.
No formal process as of yet, and we're still at pre-alpha so expect many things to be broken or unavailable
Invalid API callwhen trying to bookmark one of the posts from World (All).
Earlier issue may come from uploading a file, dropping it (because of no preview at 100%) and uploading same screenshot again.
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I may regret creating this topic but here goes.
If you experience a bug or other unexpected behavior while using NodeBB and its related ActivityPub integration, please post it here so it can be tracked and resolved.
No formal process as of yet, and we're still at pre-alpha so expect many things to be broken or unavailable
Sorting changed from default to
Newest to Oldest.
https://community.nodebb.org/topic/d35644c9-5820-49a6-9b85-9b5673acdfa4/morning-i-hope-your-day-is-awesome/2?_=1713379891143&sort=newest_to_oldestIssues:
- wrong time for
Last replynear to7 Repliesdropdown menu -12 hours agowhen latest reply timestamp shows4 hours ago, 7 Repliesafter expanding them are sortedOldest to Newestwhen posts below them are sortedNewest to Oldestas requested.
Both things work as intended outside
World (All)within normal topics not related toActivityPub. - wrong time for
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I may regret creating this topic but here goes.
If you experience a bug or other unexpected behavior while using NodeBB and its related ActivityPub integration, please post it here so it can be tracked and resolved.
No formal process as of yet, and we're still at pre-alpha so expect many things to be broken or unavailable
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It looks to be an API call and returns
{"errors":["Bad request"]}./ap/actor/ae0fea90a57bf109abf03f47806c7285tells nothing to end user so it would be nice to change it to something familiar for local community or Fediverse handle. -
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It looks to be an API call and returns
{"errors":["Bad request"]}./ap/actor/ae0fea90a57bf109abf03f47806c7285tells nothing to end user so it would be nice to change it to something familiar for local community or Fediverse handle.@angus, @devnull I think this is a bug report -
@angus, @devnull I think this is a bug report
@how@socialhub.activitypub.rocks yes, it was posted on the NodeBB community and is related to it's integration there
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I may regret creating this topic but here goes.
If you experience a bug or other unexpected behavior while using NodeBB and its related ActivityPub integration, please post it here so it can be tracked and resolved.
No formal process as of yet, and we're still at pre-alpha so expect many things to be broken or unavailable
hi @julian , I wonder how search engines and SEO will work for federated posts? Let's say I published a post specific to forum-1 on forum-1, however since it is federated out, the same posts and topic can be found on 10+ more websites simultaneously... and let's assume forum-2 is higher ranked on search engines for some reasons...
when people are searching related keywords on search engines, will they be directed to forum-1? or forum-2, namely the forum that search engine favors/ranked higher?
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hi @julian , I wonder how search engines and SEO will work for federated posts? Let's say I published a post specific to forum-1 on forum-1, however since it is federated out, the same posts and topic can be found on 10+ more websites simultaneously... and let's assume forum-2 is higher ranked on search engines for some reasons...
when people are searching related keywords on search engines, will they be directed to forum-1? or forum-2, namely the forum that search engine favors/ranked higher?
@crazycells That's a good question, and not one I'm sure I have the answer for.
It's something I wonder about because it has been said that search engines will penalize sites that contain repetitive content. Does that mean we may see downweighting because federated content can be found word-for-word elsewhere? I don't know.
I think what might be a good practice would be for a site to refer back to the original site if available.
For example, if you inspect the source for this topic, you'll see that it contains a canonical reference:
<link rel="canonical" href="https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17867/pre-alpha-activitypub-related-bug-reports?page=3" />If this topic appears elsewhere (and it does, on the ActivityPub SocialHub), then it would be better if that site also provided a canonical reference back to community.nodebb.org, but that's not a requirement anywhere at this point in time.
That way, a search engine upon encountering a site, would be able to learn the appropriate original source and weight it accordingly.
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@crazycells That's a good question, and not one I'm sure I have the answer for.
It's something I wonder about because it has been said that search engines will penalize sites that contain repetitive content. Does that mean we may see downweighting because federated content can be found word-for-word elsewhere? I don't know.
I think what might be a good practice would be for a site to refer back to the original site if available.
For example, if you inspect the source for this topic, you'll see that it contains a canonical reference:
<link rel="canonical" href="https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17867/pre-alpha-activitypub-related-bug-reports?page=3" />If this topic appears elsewhere (and it does, on the ActivityPub SocialHub), then it would be better if that site also provided a canonical reference back to community.nodebb.org, but that's not a requirement anywhere at this point in time.
That way, a search engine upon encountering a site, would be able to learn the appropriate original source and weight it accordingly.
@julian thanks for the answer. my guess is that since google or bing do not have any contribution to the fediverse or any activitypub adopting sites (or do they?), maybe they will simply not care enough or change anything about their calculations... lol...
additionally, I believe there is this bug
... edited federated posts are not updated on other sites? This is what it looks like on mastodon social however I have edited the second to the last word as ranks4 days ago?
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@crazycells That's a good question, and not one I'm sure I have the answer for.
It's something I wonder about because it has been said that search engines will penalize sites that contain repetitive content. Does that mean we may see downweighting because federated content can be found word-for-word elsewhere? I don't know.
I think what might be a good practice would be for a site to refer back to the original site if available.
For example, if you inspect the source for this topic, you'll see that it contains a canonical reference:
<link rel="canonical" href="https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17867/pre-alpha-activitypub-related-bug-reports?page=3" />If this topic appears elsewhere (and it does, on the ActivityPub SocialHub), then it would be better if that site also provided a canonical reference back to community.nodebb.org, but that's not a requirement anywhere at this point in time.
That way, a search engine upon encountering a site, would be able to learn the appropriate original source and weight it accordingly.
@julian additionally, I have just checked "ActivityPub SocialHub" , my edited post is not updated there either...
and here -originally- I just made a comment in a topic, but there it looks like I opened a new topic... and with a very ugly title
is this because you have adjusted it that way?
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@julian additionally, I have just checked "ActivityPub SocialHub" , my edited post is not updated there either...
and here -originally- I just made a comment in a topic, but there it looks like I opened a new topic... and with a very ugly title
is this because you have adjusted it that way?@crazycells said:
originally- I just made a comment in a topic, but there it looks like I opened a new topic
That one's because SocialHub (more specifically, Discourse's implementation of ActivityPub) does not automatically traverse up the reply-chain to discover the original post. The original topic pre-dates @angus@socialhub.activitypub.rocks and I syncing the categories together, so SocialHub does not know about the other posts in this topic. In that scenario, it will create a new topic like you saw.
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@julian thanks for the answer. my guess is that since google or bing do not have any contribution to the fediverse or any activitypub adopting sites (or do they?), maybe they will simply not care enough or change anything about their calculations... lol...
additionally, I believe there is this bug
... edited federated posts are not updated on other sites? This is what it looks like on mastodon social however I have edited the second to the last word as ranks4 days ago?@crazycells said in Pre-Alpha ActivityPub-related bug reports:
edited federated posts are not updated on other sites?
We're sending the appropriate activity out (an
Updateactivity) whenever a post edit takes place.I believe @oplik0 worked on this a bit, so if there are issues perhaps he may be able to speak to that.
However there is no guarantee that updates are properly handled across the fediverse. Best effort, I guess
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@crazycells That's a good question, and not one I'm sure I have the answer for.
It's something I wonder about because it has been said that search engines will penalize sites that contain repetitive content. Does that mean we may see downweighting because federated content can be found word-for-word elsewhere? I don't know.
I think what might be a good practice would be for a site to refer back to the original site if available.
For example, if you inspect the source for this topic, you'll see that it contains a canonical reference:
<link rel="canonical" href="https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17867/pre-alpha-activitypub-related-bug-reports?page=3" />If this topic appears elsewhere (and it does, on the ActivityPub SocialHub), then it would be better if that site also provided a canonical reference back to community.nodebb.org, but that's not a requirement anywhere at this point in time.
That way, a search engine upon encountering a site, would be able to learn the appropriate original source and weight it accordingly.
Hi @devnull . I haven't been following the forum topic federation discussions very closely, so this may be a silly question. Are forum topics going to be fully federated or just replicated (which is not quite the same thing, even for 2-way sync)? For example, if in the future there are 1000's of NodeBB instances running and there's a topic X, is it possible that the posts for that topic could be coming from multiple NodeBB instances (or other instance implementations)? If so, a topic-level canonical link will not work. Google currently indexes individual Mastodon posts (at least some of them, not sure about all of them). The AP Note identifier is the canonical URL in this case. (Google also indexes actor profiles in some cases, but that's a different discussion. ) FWIW, this is the canonical link I see for this topic: I'm guessing the canonical link you quoted is on the NodeBB side? Since these are different canonical links, I'd expect that Google will consider these (SocialHub and NodeBB topics) to be different web resources with mostly replicated content.
