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I could use help composing an essential Fediverse (as a topic) book reading list.

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  • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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    I could use help composing an essential Fediverse (as a topic) book reading list. I'm planning on talking to people with a variety of technical backgrounds (range and expertise) so variety is good. I haven't read any of this yet but I would read it first and either (verbally) summarise points or point people to them for more info.

    So far I have on my list:

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    #fediverse #askfedi #activitypub

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    • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

      I could use help composing an essential Fediverse (as a topic) book reading list. I'm planning on talking to people with a variety of technical backgrounds (range and expertise) so variety is good. I haven't read any of this yet but I would read it first and either (verbally) summarise points or point people to them for more info.

      So far I have on my list:

      (continued)

      #fediverse #askfedi #activitypub

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      Move Slowly and Build Bridges: Mastodon, the Fediverse, and the Struggle for Democratic Social Media by @rwg

      ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web by @evan

      Governable Spaces: Democratic Design for Online Life by @ntnsndr

      Is that a good start already or is there something I am missing?

      #fediverse #askfedi #activitypub

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      • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

        Move Slowly and Build Bridges: Mastodon, the Fediverse, and the Struggle for Democratic Social Media by @rwg

        ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web by @evan

        Governable Spaces: Democratic Design for Online Life by @ntnsndr

        Is that a good start already or is there something I am missing?

        #fediverse #askfedi #activitypub

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        @chillicampari @rwg @ntnsndr More Awesome Than Money is a good read. It's about an earlier era in the social web but a lot of the vibes are there. A lot of people who went on to make ActivityPub are discussed in the book.

        https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/309188/more-awesome-than-money-by-jim-dwyer/

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        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

          @chillicampari @rwg @ntnsndr More Awesome Than Money is a good read. It's about an earlier era in the social web but a lot of the vibes are there. A lot of people who went on to make ActivityPub are discussed in the book.

          https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/309188/more-awesome-than-money-by-jim-dwyer/

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          @chillicampari @rwg @ntnsndr my book is really a programmer's reference, but the first and last chapters are meant for all audiences.

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            @chillicampari @rwg @ntnsndr More Awesome Than Money is a good read. It's about an earlier era in the social web but a lot of the vibes are there. A lot of people who went on to make ActivityPub are discussed in the book.

            https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/309188/more-awesome-than-money-by-jim-dwyer/

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            @evan @rwg @ntnsndr very cool and thank you Evan!

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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              @chillicampari @rwg @ntnsndr my book is really a programmer's reference, but the first and last chapters are meant for all audiences.

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              @evan @rwg @ntnsndr yep, I sort of knew that already but it's good to have the middle part on hand too in case I need it so I don't end up in the weeds (I think the general idea will need to be flexible for different audiences).

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              • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

                @evan @rwg @ntnsndr yep, I sort of knew that already but it's good to have the middle part on hand too in case I need it so I don't end up in the weeds (I think the general idea will need to be flexible for different audiences).

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                @evan something that has come up a few times over the years is that small companies and non-profits have trouble justifying dedicating operations or development time into things like self-hosting. Many have a "no new tools" rule outside of procument windows. So I'm going to need to make a technical case also in addition to a social argument. I know there are a lot of docs now (and did self-host for a bit with @mfeilner) but books are very good to point to and say "please read this" @rwg @ntnsndr

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                • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

                  Move Slowly and Build Bridges: Mastodon, the Fediverse, and the Struggle for Democratic Social Media by @rwg

                  ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web by @evan

                  Governable Spaces: Democratic Design for Online Life by @ntnsndr

                  Is that a good start already or is there something I am missing?

                  #fediverse #askfedi #activitypub

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                  @DeeAnn Little
                  @Evan Prodromou
                  is there something I am missing?

                  Yes; nomadic identity (e.g. see hubzilla.org)
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                  • citc@zotum.netC citc@zotum.net
                    @DeeAnn Little
                    @Evan Prodromou
                    is there something I am missing?

                    Yes; nomadic identity (e.g. see hubzilla.org)
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                    @citc cool and thank you! Is there something I can point other people to, to learn about it? Audience ranges from non-technical to technical.

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                    • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

                      @citc cool and thank you! Is there something I can point other people to, to learn about it? Audience ranges from non-technical to technical.

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                      @DeeAnn Little
                      Have a look at the hubzilla web site, but personal opinion is that documentation, promotion and usage statistics is poor. Good software, but insufficient servers and only one programmer?
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                      • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

                        Move Slowly and Build Bridges: Mastodon, the Fediverse, and the Struggle for Democratic Social Media by @rwg

                        ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web by @evan

                        Governable Spaces: Democratic Design for Online Life by @ntnsndr

                        Is that a good start already or is there something I am missing?

                        #fediverse #askfedi #activitypub

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                        (skimmed this, will read in full later but so far looks like a good fit)

                        https://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/de/publikationen/publikation/did/decentralized-social-media-platforms-as-a-path-to-a-more-resilient-information-ecosystem

                        via @iftas

                        https://mastodon.iftas.org/@iftas/116092824035599326

                        Edit- in both English and German (same document)

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                        • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

                          I could use help composing an essential Fediverse (as a topic) book reading list. I'm planning on talking to people with a variety of technical backgrounds (range and expertise) so variety is good. I haven't read any of this yet but I would read it first and either (verbally) summarise points or point people to them for more info.

                          So far I have on my list:

                          (continued)

                          #fediverse #askfedi #activitypub

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                          @chillicampari there is this Zotero library for Fediverse research literature: https://www.zotero.org/groups/5490166/fediverse_research/

                          if you like, you can also add stuff there

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                          • resieguen@legal.socialR resieguen@legal.social

                            @chillicampari there is this Zotero library for Fediverse research literature: https://www.zotero.org/groups/5490166/fediverse_research/

                            if you like, you can also add stuff there

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                            @resieguen this is really cool and I had no idea that it exists, thank you so much! I think it's the most comprehensive listing I've seen and sorting by date is really interesting too.

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