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No, #Brave is NOT a privacy-friendly browser.

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  • wuzzy@cyberplace.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
    wuzzy@cyberplace.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
    wuzzy@cyberplace.social
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    No, #Brave is NOT a privacy-friendly browser.

    https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave
    https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-most-overrated-browser-dont-recommend/

    No, #Vivaldi is NOT a privacy-friendly browser.

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    Vivaldi — Spyware Watchdog

    favicon

    (spyware.neocities.org)

    Just because a browser CLAIMS to be #privacy-friendly doesn’t make it true.

    #marketing #bullshit #lies #web #browser

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    • wuzzy@cyberplace.socialW wuzzy@cyberplace.social

      No, #Brave is NOT a privacy-friendly browser.

      https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave
      https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-most-overrated-browser-dont-recommend/

      No, #Vivaldi is NOT a privacy-friendly browser.

      Link Preview Image
      Vivaldi — Spyware Watchdog

      favicon

      (spyware.neocities.org)

      Just because a browser CLAIMS to be #privacy-friendly doesn’t make it true.

      #marketing #bullshit #lies #web #browser

      leeloo@techhub.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Wuzzy
      It weakens the argument when among the first requests shown (Vivaldi) are the built in ad- and tracker-blocker fetching updated blocklists (at least the easylist one, probably other urls as well). If you don't want it to do that, you can either select no blocking, or use your own blocklist.

      (The rest of the argument may still stand, I don't recognise most of the urls).

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        @Wuzzy
        It weakens the argument when among the first requests shown (Vivaldi) are the built in ad- and tracker-blocker fetching updated blocklists (at least the easylist one, probably other urls as well). If you don't want it to do that, you can either select no blocking, or use your own blocklist.

        (The rest of the argument may still stand, I don't recognise most of the urls).

        altcode@social.vivaldi.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @leeloo And likewise, just because some random website claim something to be "spyware" doesn’t make it true.

        Btw, if you're curious, here's a two year old analysis from the forum of what each URL is (there's also some _very_ light instructions on how to check the connections yourself as well):
        https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/681464

        @Wuzzy

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        • altcode@social.vivaldi.netA altcode@social.vivaldi.net

          @leeloo And likewise, just because some random website claim something to be "spyware" doesn’t make it true.

          Btw, if you're curious, here's a two year old analysis from the forum of what each URL is (there's also some _very_ light instructions on how to check the connections yourself as well):
          https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/681464

          @Wuzzy

          wuzzy@cyberplace.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @AltCode @leeloo Well, OK, let’s go more up-to-date: Vivaldi admits in their privacy policy that an unique user ID is generated on startup. Not a great start …
          More damning, connections to Google are admitted in the privacy policy. Built-in Google for *anything* is an absolute no-go for me in a browser.
          "Privacy-friendly" and "Google" DO NOT MIX.

          If a browser promises to be privacy-friendly, I expect higher standards.

          Oh, and Vivaldi is still proprietary software. Not great for trust.

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          • wuzzy@cyberplace.socialW wuzzy@cyberplace.social

            @AltCode @leeloo Well, OK, let’s go more up-to-date: Vivaldi admits in their privacy policy that an unique user ID is generated on startup. Not a great start …
            More damning, connections to Google are admitted in the privacy policy. Built-in Google for *anything* is an absolute no-go for me in a browser.
            "Privacy-friendly" and "Google" DO NOT MIX.

            If a browser promises to be privacy-friendly, I expect higher standards.

            Oh, and Vivaldi is still proprietary software. Not great for trust.

            altcode@social.vivaldi.netA This user is from outside of this forum
            altcode@social.vivaldi.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Wuzzy They do indeed admit to all of that in the privacy policy. Ultimately though, none of that shakes my trust in the _people_ working at Vivaldi.

            I've been using the browser for ~9.5 years; so far, to my eyes at least, they have been transparent with their intentions, and extremely consistent at following through with them; after all, actions speak louder than words.

            And while it would be nice if Vivaldi were FOSS, I'm not holding my breath over that matter - and hey, they're source available, fwiw ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            @leeloo

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