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There should a seperate place for US news so we all can ignore itπŸ™Žβ€β™‚οΈ

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  • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

    Yep, Jordan's problem is that he is American. Definitely not that he's a piece of shit.

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    #22

    I never said the problem was that he was an American now, did I? I repeatedly added caveats after the fact about how he's a lunatic. The worst was "an aggressively American lens" which I also stand by given it's a world news community.

    moderated by an American who has refused to acknowledge or accept terms from other countries outside of the United States

    Seen through an aggressively American lens

    an American being the be-all and end-all of reality when they're not even plugged into it themselves.

    My issue is that it's a world news community run by an apologetic American who is also an asshole. That perfect storm of stupid. Not because he is an American alone.

    Edit: Jesus check this users modlog... They seem to only exist on lemmy to get into petty slapfights over their own failed reading comprehension. They have so many recent mod interactions that if you click on page 2 you're still under "A Month Ago".

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    • stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.comS stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      I never said the problem was that he was an American now, did I? I repeatedly added caveats after the fact about how he's a lunatic. The worst was "an aggressively American lens" which I also stand by given it's a world news community.

      moderated by an American who has refused to acknowledge or accept terms from other countries outside of the United States

      Seen through an aggressively American lens

      an American being the be-all and end-all of reality when they're not even plugged into it themselves.

      My issue is that it's a world news community run by an apologetic American who is also an asshole. That perfect storm of stupid. Not because he is an American alone.

      Edit: Jesus check this users modlog... They seem to only exist on lemmy to get into petty slapfights over their own failed reading comprehension. They have so many recent mod interactions that if you click on page 2 you're still under "A Month Ago".

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      #23

      It's pretty obvious even if I were to ignore this other thing you said

      ... finally giving me a socially acceptable justification for hating that entire fucking shit stain of a country.

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      • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

        It's pretty obvious even if I were to ignore this other thing you said

        ... finally giving me a socially acceptable justification for hating that entire fucking shit stain of a country.

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        #24

        In a completely different comment, in a completely different comment chain (responding directly to OP) with a completely different context? Sure. Let's add that back in so we're not acting disingenuous as fuck, shall we?

        Yeah. As a Canadian, I can't say that I'm not fucking sick of it. This America-centric bullshit has gone on for far too fucking long, and if there is one thing that I will thank Donald Trump for, it is finally giving me a socially acceptable justification for hating that entire fucking shit stain of a country.

        Do I hate the United States? Yes. Do I hate Americans? No. You seem to have a serious problem with reading comprehension or you're just wanting to frame this like you're a victim. You're not. People are allowed to have opinions on countries that repeatedly meddle in the rest of the world, you're not special and do not deserve special protection from criticism as a country. You also need to learn the difference between disliking a country and disliking its people. You know, unless you want to argue that you are completely aligned with the United States government which I seriously doubt.

        I'm not continuing this with you. Your behavior is questionable at best and I'm not really interested in getting into a slapfight with someone who is going to redact everything that doesn't align with their view of someone else. Starting to remember why I had you blocked on lemmy.world.

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        • stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.comS stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          In a completely different comment, in a completely different comment chain (responding directly to OP) with a completely different context? Sure. Let's add that back in so we're not acting disingenuous as fuck, shall we?

          Yeah. As a Canadian, I can't say that I'm not fucking sick of it. This America-centric bullshit has gone on for far too fucking long, and if there is one thing that I will thank Donald Trump for, it is finally giving me a socially acceptable justification for hating that entire fucking shit stain of a country.

          Do I hate the United States? Yes. Do I hate Americans? No. You seem to have a serious problem with reading comprehension or you're just wanting to frame this like you're a victim. You're not. People are allowed to have opinions on countries that repeatedly meddle in the rest of the world, you're not special and do not deserve special protection from criticism as a country. You also need to learn the difference between disliking a country and disliking its people. You know, unless you want to argue that you are completely aligned with the United States government which I seriously doubt.

          I'm not continuing this with you. Your behavior is questionable at best and I'm not really interested in getting into a slapfight with someone who is going to redact everything that doesn't align with their view of someone else. Starting to remember why I had you blocked on lemmy.world.

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          #25

          Any time someone gets called after accidentally revealing an uncomfortable truth about themselves, they always pull the "reading comprehension" card. I don't need to argue or quote or anything else. Your comments here are dripping with disdain for an entire country. You say it targets no individuals but it certainly does and that's what you were called for. It's textbook bigotry. Now go ahead and call me a stupid American and get it over with. Everyone reading has no doubt you're thinking it.

          Edit: it's weird you edited in the bit about blocking me. Don't think I've interacted with you before. Also, you remember every username you block? You just really need to be right. That way, you don't have to consider how it sounds when you write the things you wrote here.

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          • stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.comS stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            I never said the problem was that he was an American now, did I? I repeatedly added caveats after the fact about how he's a lunatic. The worst was "an aggressively American lens" which I also stand by given it's a world news community.

            moderated by an American who has refused to acknowledge or accept terms from other countries outside of the United States

            Seen through an aggressively American lens

            an American being the be-all and end-all of reality when they're not even plugged into it themselves.

            My issue is that it's a world news community run by an apologetic American who is also an asshole. That perfect storm of stupid. Not because he is an American alone.

            Edit: Jesus check this users modlog... They seem to only exist on lemmy to get into petty slapfights over their own failed reading comprehension. They have so many recent mod interactions that if you click on page 2 you're still under "A Month Ago".

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            #26

            Jesus check this users modlog...

            Yes some people don't delete their accounts to hide their "controversy".

            It's pretty telling you get this offended and personal over one fair critique

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              Just don't sub munis about US news or politics? I never see any here except local stuff in the Chicago munis. Curate your subscription list and you'll be golden.

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              • M multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de

                It's not only that.
                I have the feeling that US mainstream media style is replicated in the comments, aimed at maximizing polarized drama instead of having balanced and grounded discussions.
                I can't stand that type of talk.

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                This. I was watching the BBC Archive the other day, where it interviewed people's thoughts on the mutual disarm movement back in the 80s, and you had two people sitting down at a table expressing their views, but not getting more than a little riled up or resorting to character attacks.

                https://youtu.be/6yfE9Ihr8F0?t=661

                I wish TV was still like this. The most vocal guy in the room is putting forward the view that UK paid for the nukes, and so it should keep them, and ultimately make ourselves more independent of the US and not subservient to them. He's also a chauvinist pig, but it is only one aspect of his personality and the others seem to understand that and keep the discussion grounded.

                One thing I have noticed from watching these old videos is that people ultimately haven't changed: the exact same gripes (cost of living, buying houses), and the exact same fears (russian interference, loss of jobs to china). They just smoke and drank more.

                That last sentence might sound like a joke, but I do think there really is something to having a beer and sharing a cigarette with someone you're violently in disagreement with. It normalizes the air somehow. Reminds me of the "slightly less than two drinks" rule from Mitchell&Web.

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                • tetris11@feddit.ukT tetris11@feddit.uk

                  This. I was watching the BBC Archive the other day, where it interviewed people's thoughts on the mutual disarm movement back in the 80s, and you had two people sitting down at a table expressing their views, but not getting more than a little riled up or resorting to character attacks.

                  https://youtu.be/6yfE9Ihr8F0?t=661

                  I wish TV was still like this. The most vocal guy in the room is putting forward the view that UK paid for the nukes, and so it should keep them, and ultimately make ourselves more independent of the US and not subservient to them. He's also a chauvinist pig, but it is only one aspect of his personality and the others seem to understand that and keep the discussion grounded.

                  One thing I have noticed from watching these old videos is that people ultimately haven't changed: the exact same gripes (cost of living, buying houses), and the exact same fears (russian interference, loss of jobs to china). They just smoke and drank more.

                  That last sentence might sound like a joke, but I do think there really is something to having a beer and sharing a cigarette with someone you're violently in disagreement with. It normalizes the air somehow. Reminds me of the "slightly less than two drinks" rule from Mitchell&Web.

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                  #29

                  1983 , I was in the army then , almost WW III, Stanislav Petrov saved the world

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

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                  • W waldo_was_here@piefed.social

                    1983 , I was in the army then , almost WW III, Stanislav Petrov saved the world

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

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                    Yes he did. Sometimes it just takes one adult in the room

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                    • M moderatecentrist@feddit.uk

                      This is why I joined feddit.uk. If I want UK-centric stuff then I can look at "local" posts. If I want to see more stuff (including US stuff) then I can look at "all" posts.

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                      That's certainly a luxury some of us has. Feddit.dk for Danes is certainly nice.
                      And with regards of filtering out mostly 'murican stuff I've just blocked lemmy.world and that seems to have helped a lot.

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                        If a post is against the community rules, you should report it, not just downvote it.

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                        • T turret3857@infosec.pub

                          sucks Lemmy doesn't have filters and that people mispost stuff about the us (which is not part of the world) in news/world communities.

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                          The Voyager app has keyword filters. I have words like "Trump" and "Elon" in there and it has helped a lot.

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                          • stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.comS stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            Unfortunately, that community is also moderated by an American (JordanLund) who has refused to acknowledge or accept terms from other countries outside of the United states, has banned Canadians for 'misinformation' when they were merely using Canadian political terms he didn't understand, and has argued with the admins of lemmy.world that he did nothing wrong. The admins warned him about the situation and publicly he refuses to back down.

                            That community can't be trusted. It's not impartial and not remotely trustworthy. It is seen through an aggressively American lens.

                            This is a breakdown of some of the shit that he's done. It's a repost of something I made that got deleted when I left LW. This is that original post if you want to see the comments of him "defending" himself by making it a thousand times worse. This was the last straw for me and why I left Lemmy.world, deleting all my content and setting up on dbzer0 instead with new communities to boot.

                            I am fucking done accepting an American being the be-all and end-all of reality when they're not even plugged into it themselves.

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                            Give it a fucking break, dude. JL is not Satan and not nearly as bad as you make him out to be.

                            Yeah, he did some power tripping dumb shit and can't handle being questioned. Yeah, the admins handled that late. If it continues, I do believe they'll deal with it.

                            But he's not racist, and he's not half the other things you've accused him of. Just because you didn't fully get your way doesn't make it his fault.

                            You know the latest thing he's been shit on for? Not allowing US news in !world. It's incredibly stupid. And he's been defeated and overrun.

                            You know he's human, right?

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                            • S serinus@lemmy.world

                              Give it a fucking break, dude. JL is not Satan and not nearly as bad as you make him out to be.

                              Yeah, he did some power tripping dumb shit and can't handle being questioned. Yeah, the admins handled that late. If it continues, I do believe they'll deal with it.

                              But he's not racist, and he's not half the other things you've accused him of. Just because you didn't fully get your way doesn't make it his fault.

                              You know the latest thing he's been shit on for? Not allowing US news in !world. It's incredibly stupid. And he's been defeated and overrun.

                              You know he's human, right?

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                              • stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.comS stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                Unfortunately, that community is also moderated by an American (JordanLund) who has refused to acknowledge or accept terms from other countries outside of the United states, has banned Canadians for 'misinformation' when they were merely using Canadian political terms he didn't understand, and has argued with the admins of lemmy.world that he did nothing wrong. The admins warned him about the situation and publicly he refuses to back down.

                                That community can't be trusted. It's not impartial and not remotely trustworthy. It is seen through an aggressively American lens.

                                This is a breakdown of some of the shit that he's done. It's a repost of something I made that got deleted when I left LW. This is that original post if you want to see the comments of him "defending" himself by making it a thousand times worse. This was the last straw for me and why I left Lemmy.world, deleting all my content and setting up on dbzer0 instead with new communities to boot.

                                I am fucking done accepting an American being the be-all and end-all of reality when they're not even plugged into it themselves.

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                                Yeah, you left .world over a shitty mod, to go to an instance where the admins tolerate Holodomor denial and deny UN-verified sexual assault, lmao.

                                Fantastic choice.

                                Unruffled denying Uyghur genocide

                                Holodomor denial left up in a comm where the only two mods are dbzer0 admins, they both participated in the thread, the material was reported, it was specifically pointed out to one of them, and the comm regularly removes Zionist genocide apologia and denial under the (legitimate) justification that genocide denial is against the rules. Apparently, the Holodomor isn't a REAL genocide in the admins' eyes.

                                Both Unruffled, dbzer0 admin, and Davel, .ml admin, denying UN verified sexual assault

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                                • T threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works

                                  If a post is against the community rules, you should report it, not just downvote it.

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                                  If I report every post I see not fit, I will get banned most likely.
                                  And they will say that we support Trump and that we don't let people know about Trump for the 100th time.

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                                  • R rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works

                                    It's not their fault they're taught that they are the centre of the whole world.

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                                    It's also their problem defining what is important and what not. Posting everything that Trump says, is not news, it's a spam.

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                                    • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                                      Any time someone gets called after accidentally revealing an uncomfortable truth about themselves, they always pull the "reading comprehension" card. I don't need to argue or quote or anything else. Your comments here are dripping with disdain for an entire country. You say it targets no individuals but it certainly does and that's what you were called for. It's textbook bigotry. Now go ahead and call me a stupid American and get it over with. Everyone reading has no doubt you're thinking it.

                                      Edit: it's weird you edited in the bit about blocking me. Don't think I've interacted with you before. Also, you remember every username you block? You just really need to be right. That way, you don't have to consider how it sounds when you write the things you wrote here.

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                                      That’s a whole load of strawmanning.

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                                        Same bro, same! I have blocked 10+ communities and keywords through Voyager app.
                                        I do enjoy my home page, but I do like to scroll through /all, and that's where I scroll going through USA news.

                                        Edit: USA users are also aggressive when you complain, like you are wrong, not letting other people know what's going on.

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                                          i just block out these comms nowadays

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