This. I was watching the BBC Archive the other day, where it interviewed people's thoughts on the mutual disarm movement back in the 80s, and you had two people sitting down at a table expressing their views, but not getting more than a little riled up or resorting to character attacks.

https://youtu.be/6yfE9Ihr8F0?t=661

I wish TV was still like this. The most vocal guy in the room is putting forward the view that UK paid for the nukes, and so it should keep them, and ultimately make ourselves more independent of the US and not subservient to them. He's also a chauvinist pig, but it is only one aspect of his personality and the others seem to understand that and keep the discussion grounded.

One thing I have noticed from watching these old videos is that people ultimately haven't changed: the exact same gripes (cost of living, buying houses), and the exact same fears (russian interference, loss of jobs to china). They just smoke and drank more.

That last sentence might sound like a joke, but I do think there really is something to having a beer and sharing a cigarette with someone you're violently in disagreement with. It normalizes the air somehow. Reminds me of the "slightly less than two drinks" rule from Mitchell&Web.

1983 , I was in the army then , almost WW III, Stanislav Petrov saved the world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

This is why I joined feddit.uk. If I want UK-centric stuff then I can look at "local" posts. If I want to see more stuff (including US stuff) then I can look at "all" posts.

sucks Lemmy doesn't have filters and that people mispost stuff about the us (which is not part of the world) in news/world communities.

Unfortunately, that community is also moderated by an American (JordanLund) who has refused to acknowledge or accept terms from other countries outside of the United states, has banned Canadians for 'misinformation' when they were merely using Canadian political terms he didn't understand, and has argued with the admins of lemmy.world that he did nothing wrong. The admins warned him about the situation and publicly he refuses to back down.

That community can't be trusted. It's not impartial and not remotely trustworthy. It is seen through an aggressively American lens.

This is a breakdown of some of the shit that he's done. It's a repost of something I made that got deleted when I left LW. This is that original post if you want to see the comments of him "defending" himself by making it a thousand times worse. This was the last straw for me and why I left Lemmy.world, deleting all my content and setting up on dbzer0 instead with new communities to boot.

I am fucking done accepting an American being the be-all and end-all of reality when they're not even plugged into it themselves.

Give it a fucking break, dude. JL is not Satan and not nearly as bad as you make him out to be.

Yeah, he did some power tripping dumb shit and can't handle being questioned. Yeah, the admins handled that late. If it continues, I do believe they'll deal with it.

But he's not racist, and he's not half the other things you've accused him of. Just because you didn't fully get your way doesn't make it his fault.

You know the latest thing he's been shit on for? Not allowing US news in !world. It's incredibly stupid. And he's been defeated and overrun.

You know he's human, right?

Unfortunately, that community is also moderated by an American (JordanLund) who has refused to acknowledge or accept terms from other countries outside of the United states, has banned Canadians for 'misinformation' when they were merely using Canadian political terms he didn't understand, and has argued with the admins of lemmy.world that he did nothing wrong. The admins warned him about the situation and publicly he refuses to back down.

That community can't be trusted. It's not impartial and not remotely trustworthy. It is seen through an aggressively American lens.

This is a breakdown of some of the shit that he's done. It's a repost of something I made that got deleted when I left LW. This is that original post if you want to see the comments of him "defending" himself by making it a thousand times worse. This was the last straw for me and why I left Lemmy.world, deleting all my content and setting up on dbzer0 instead with new communities to boot.

I am fucking done accepting an American being the be-all and end-all of reality when they're not even plugged into it themselves.

If a post is against the community rules, you should report it, not just downvote it.

It's not their fault they're taught that they are the centre of the whole world.

Any time someone gets called after accidentally revealing an uncomfortable truth about themselves, they always pull the "reading comprehension" card. I don't need to argue or quote or anything else. Your comments here are dripping with disdain for an entire country. You say it targets no individuals but it certainly does and that's what you were called for. It's textbook bigotry. Now go ahead and call me a stupid American and get it over with. Everyone reading has no doubt you're thinking it.

Edit: it's weird you edited in the bit about blocking me. Don't think I've interacted with you before. Also, you remember every username you block? You just really need to be right. That way, you don't have to consider how it sounds when you write the things you wrote here.

How about someone start a community called outsideUSnews, nonUSApolitics etc.? Where every country other than USA's news and politics are discussed.

Isn’t this only a problem because many users are American? Then naturally many posts will be about America.

How is “world news” defined?

Alternate title: I don't want to know what happened in Bumfuck, Nevada.

Yeah. As a Canadian, I can't say that I'm not fucking sick of it. This America-centric bullshit has gone on for far too fucking long, and if there is one thing that I will thank Donald Trump for, it is finally giving me a socially acceptable justification for hating that entire fucking shit stain of a country.

Isn’t this only a problem because many users are American? Then naturally many posts will be about America.

How is “world news” defined?