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  • M mnbychoice@midwest.social

    Tapes beat spinning disks.

    Here is a source I didn't read: https://www.howtogeek.com/858426/whats-the-best-way-to-store-data-for-decades-or-centuries/

    My actual source is "used to professional care about longevity".

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    natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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    #18

    Let's do a laser-engraving into glass. Would be hard to beat that.

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyzD deegeese@sopuli.xyz

      Convert DVDs into files on NAS with backups.

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      rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      or just download better quality files for your NAS

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      • M mnbychoice@midwest.social

        Tapes beat spinning disks.

        Here is a source I didn't read: https://www.howtogeek.com/858426/whats-the-best-way-to-store-data-for-decades-or-centuries/

        My actual source is "used to professional care about longevity".

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        rumschlumpel@feddit.org
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        #20

        I did specify common medium. How many people have a tape drive at home? And IMO that article is missing information about how long those magnetic spinning disks last if you keep them powered off most of the time, like tapes.

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        • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ jqubed@lemmy.world

          @admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places

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          Jen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
          Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
          -
          Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
          Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
          -
          Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
          Jen: I mean... probably

          :::

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          slaacaa@lemmy.world
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          That’s why a PS5 (or another console) is very useful. Sometimes a movie is not available on any streaming, so I get it it cheaply on blu ray or dvd to watch it. We don’t have any other disc player in the house, despite having a few laptops.

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          • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ jqubed@lemmy.world

            @admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places

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            Jen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
            Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
            -
            Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
            Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
            -
            Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
            Jen: I mean... probably

            :::

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            atlien51@lemm.ee
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            Bruh shut with the DVD player. Literally anything can play a dvd; pc, laptop, Xbox, PlayStation..

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            • R rumschlumpel@feddit.org

              I did specify common medium. How many people have a tape drive at home? And IMO that article is missing information about how long those magnetic spinning disks last if you keep them powered off most of the time, like tapes.

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              prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
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              #23

              There is a reason tape storage was used for archival backup over traditional spinny disks.

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              • huntresshimbo@lemm.eeH huntresshimbo@lemm.ee

                USB DVD readers are still available if you look

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                lorips@lemmy.world
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                #24

                I have two 5 1/4" drives in a PC, one doing Bluray XL and the other Bluray and HD-DVD (altough I couldn't test that feature because nothing supports them anymore and a lot of HD-DVDs are dead from disc rot)

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                • O oplkill@lemmy.world

                  dvd disks degrading

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                  icastfist@programming.dev
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                  Warner bros has entered the chat

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                  • A atlien51@lemm.ee

                    Bruh shut with the DVD player. Literally anything can play a dvd; pc, laptop, Xbox, PlayStation..

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                    ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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                    #26

                    Assuming it has an optical drive

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                    • A atlien51@lemm.ee

                      Bruh shut with the DVD player. Literally anything can play a dvd; pc, laptop, Xbox, PlayStation..

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                      rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee
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                      #27

                      Those don't come with disc drives anymore unless you're willing to pay extra.

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                      • O oplkill@lemmy.world

                        dvd disks degrading

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                        andros_rex@lemmy.world
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                        I picked up a season 1 Metalocalypse from a thrift shop and it was dead. It’s such a gamble. Goodwill is getting really precious on their DVDs too - only really good deals if you find a season/box set that they haven’t broken up.

                        VHS seems more dependable, and VHS is dirt cheap. I got a pre-special edition Star Wars box set for $5, I got a season of MASH and Sergio Leone’s Dollars trilogy for $1 each. Lots of my local shops have $0.49 VHS bins.

                        Finding a VHS player can be a challenge. DVD players are super available, but I spent a month or so hunting for my current player. (The rewinders though - everywhere.)

                        Vinyl can also be found for pennies, but most of the good stuff is picked up quickly. If you are okay with mid jazz, classical music, and “greatest hits” compilations, the vinyl stacks are good to poke through.

                        I do like that all of my analog media is mine. No worries about it being pulled from streaming or altered or copyright weirdness - I can go back to 1998 and watch my Star Wars.

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                        • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ jqubed@lemmy.world

                          @admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places

                          Alt text
                          ::: spoiler Spoiler

                          Jen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
                          Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
                          -
                          Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
                          Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
                          -
                          Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
                          Jen: I mean... probably

                          :::

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                          remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world
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                          #29

                          If there’s an apocalypse you can try eating the CDs. Being able to use them will likely never be on the radar.

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                          • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ jqubed@lemmy.world

                            @admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places

                            Alt text
                            ::: spoiler Spoiler

                            Jen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
                            Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
                            -
                            Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
                            Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
                            -
                            Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
                            Jen: I mean... probably

                            :::

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                            monkdervierte@lemmy.ml
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                            #30

                            Can't play that on a FOSS OS without circumventing some shitty DRM mechanisms. Better get that DVD on a disk subito. Even worse on bluray.

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                            • natanox@discuss.tchncs.deN natanox@discuss.tchncs.de

                              Let's do a laser-engraving into glass. Would be hard to beat that.

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                              monkdervierte@lemmy.ml
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                              #31

                              Too brittle. Fused quartz might work. Has high Mohs and doesn't degrade for billions of years.

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                              • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ jqubed@lemmy.world

                                @admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places

                                Alt text
                                ::: spoiler Spoiler

                                Jen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
                                Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
                                -
                                Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
                                Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
                                -
                                Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
                                Jen: I mean... probably

                                :::

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                                ptsf@lemmy.world
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                                Something that people are missing with the whole physical media situation is that it being physical does not preclude it from internet connected DRM, server requirements, etc. It just so happens that around the turn of this century DVDs came along and lacked sophisticated/connected DRM implementations, but it is not inherent to their physical nature. Physical media also decays. DVDs generally have around 20-25 years before bitrot starts to set in. I love the concept, but you're better served by a hard drive than a DVD.

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                                • A andros_rex@lemmy.world

                                  I picked up a season 1 Metalocalypse from a thrift shop and it was dead. It’s such a gamble. Goodwill is getting really precious on their DVDs too - only really good deals if you find a season/box set that they haven’t broken up.

                                  VHS seems more dependable, and VHS is dirt cheap. I got a pre-special edition Star Wars box set for $5, I got a season of MASH and Sergio Leone’s Dollars trilogy for $1 each. Lots of my local shops have $0.49 VHS bins.

                                  Finding a VHS player can be a challenge. DVD players are super available, but I spent a month or so hunting for my current player. (The rewinders though - everywhere.)

                                  Vinyl can also be found for pennies, but most of the good stuff is picked up quickly. If you are okay with mid jazz, classical music, and “greatest hits” compilations, the vinyl stacks are good to poke through.

                                  I do like that all of my analog media is mine. No worries about it being pulled from streaming or altered or copyright weirdness - I can go back to 1998 and watch my Star Wars.

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                                  monkdervierte@lemmy.ml
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                                  #33

                                  VHS, like video casettes? You might have forgotten about ghosting due to overwriting from adjacent layers.

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                                  • R rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    or just download better quality files for your NAS

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                                    monkdervierte@lemmy.ml
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                                    #34

                                    Not in my language and streams are compressed dead.

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                                    • pika@sh.itjust.worksP pika@sh.itjust.works

                                      Yeah, DVD players and Blu-ray players are going the way of the VHS player. It's becoming increasingly difficult to find one that isn't super locked down by some form of DRM and just works.

                                      And if you're trying to find one for computers, forget about it. You spend an arm and a leg trying to find anything that isn't just your typical DVD only, no Blu-ray or 4K. Blu-ray is a little more pricey, but any type of actual 4K player for computers, you're spending $$$ unless you're willing to try to patch it with a custom firmware.

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                                      monkdervierte@lemmy.ml
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                                      $80 for Verbatim Slimline Blu-ray half a year ago, now $95 and the internal player changed, not LibreDrive ootb anymore, but still flashable.

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                                      • rickyrigatoni@lemm.eeR rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee

                                        Those don't come with disc drives anymore unless you're willing to pay extra.

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                                        atlien51@lemm.ee
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                                        #36

                                        Bro.

                                        Not everyone has ps5/xbox series x, the discless version .

                                        Plenty of people have ps4/xbox series x (disc version), xbox one, Xbox 360/ps3 in the attic somewhere, an old laptop/desktop…need I go on?

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                                        • bdonvr@thelemmy.clubB bdonvr@thelemmy.club

                                          Rip your DVDs.

                                          You can even just straight rip them to .iso and enjoy full quality with menus and all. I think Jellyfin supports that at least.

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                                          fundmecfsresearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                          and feel free to share the rarer ones with the torrent community

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