[Admiral Wonderboat] Physical Media Forever
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If only physical digital media would actually last "forever" ... I think magnetic harddrives that aren't in constant use actually have the most longevity of common digital mediums.
Tapes beat spinning disks.
Here is a source I didn't read: https://www.howtogeek.com/858426/whats-the-best-way-to-store-data-for-decades-or-centuries/
My actual source is "used to professional care about longevity".
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Rip your DVDs.
You can even just straight rip them to .iso and enjoy full quality with menus and all. I think Jellyfin supports that at least.
Useful website: https://b3n.org/automatic-ripping-machine/
For other usefull resources check your public library. Lots of overlap between
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::: spoiler SpoilerJen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
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Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
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Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
Jen: I mean... probably:::
In the future when we can become cyborgs, Imma get lasers in my eyes so I can just watch DVDs by looking at the bottom of the disc.
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@admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places
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::: spoiler SpoilerJen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
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Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
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Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
Jen: I mean... probably:::
MakeMKV ftw
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Tapes beat spinning disks.
Here is a source I didn't read: https://www.howtogeek.com/858426/whats-the-best-way-to-store-data-for-decades-or-centuries/
My actual source is "used to professional care about longevity".
Let's do a laser-engraving into glass. Would be hard to beat that.
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Convert DVDs into files on NAS with backups.
or just download better quality files for your NAS
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Tapes beat spinning disks.
Here is a source I didn't read: https://www.howtogeek.com/858426/whats-the-best-way-to-store-data-for-decades-or-centuries/
My actual source is "used to professional care about longevity".
I did specify common medium. How many people have a tape drive at home? And IMO that article is missing information about how long those magnetic spinning disks last if you keep them powered off most of the time, like tapes.
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@admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places
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::: spoiler SpoilerJen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
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Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
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Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
Jen: I mean... probably:::
Thatās why a PS5 (or another console) is very useful. Sometimes a movie is not available on any streaming, so I get it it cheaply on blu ray or dvd to watch it. We donāt have any other disc player in the house, despite having a few laptops.
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@admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places
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::: spoiler SpoilerJen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
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Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
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Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
Jen: I mean... probably:::
Bruh shut with the DVD player. Literally anything can play a dvd; pc, laptop, Xbox, PlayStation..
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I did specify common medium. How many people have a tape drive at home? And IMO that article is missing information about how long those magnetic spinning disks last if you keep them powered off most of the time, like tapes.
There is a reason tape storage was used for archival backup over traditional spinny disks.
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USB DVD readers are still available if you look
I have two 5 1/4" drives in a PC, one doing Bluray XL and the other Bluray and HD-DVD (altough I couldn't test that feature because nothing supports them anymore and a lot of HD-DVDs are dead from disc rot)
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dvd disks degrading
Warner bros has entered the chat
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Bruh shut with the DVD player. Literally anything can play a dvd; pc, laptop, Xbox, PlayStation..
Assuming it has an optical drive
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Bruh shut with the DVD player. Literally anything can play a dvd; pc, laptop, Xbox, PlayStation..
Those don't come with disc drives anymore unless you're willing to pay extra.
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dvd disks degrading
I picked up a season 1 Metalocalypse from a thrift shop and it was dead. Itās such a gamble. Goodwill is getting really precious on their DVDs too - only really good deals if you find a season/box set that they havenāt broken up.
VHS seems more dependable, and VHS is dirt cheap. I got a pre-special edition Star Wars box set for $5, I got a season of MASH and Sergio Leoneās Dollars trilogy for $1 each. Lots of my local shops have $0.49 VHS bins.
Finding a VHS player can be a challenge. DVD players are super available, but I spent a month or so hunting for my current player. (The rewinders though - everywhere.)
Vinyl can also be found for pennies, but most of the good stuff is picked up quickly. If you are okay with mid jazz, classical music, and āgreatest hitsā compilations, the vinyl stacks are good to poke through.
I do like that all of my analog media is mine. No worries about it being pulled from streaming or altered or copyright weirdness - I can go back to 1998 and watch my Star Wars.
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@admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places
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::: spoiler SpoilerJen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
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Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
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Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
Jen: I mean... probably:::
If thereās an apocalypse you can try eating the CDs. Being able to use them will likely never be on the radar.
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@admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places
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::: spoiler SpoilerJen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
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Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
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Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
Jen: I mean... probably:::
Can't play that on a FOSS OS without circumventing some shitty DRM mechanisms. Better get that DVD on a disk subito. Even worse on bluray.
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Let's do a laser-engraving into glass. Would be hard to beat that.
Too brittle. Fused quartz might work. Has high Mohs and doesn't degrade for billions of years.
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@admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places
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::: spoiler SpoilerJen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
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Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
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Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
Jen: I mean... probably:::
Something that people are missing with the whole physical media situation is that it being physical does not preclude it from internet connected DRM, server requirements, etc. It just so happens that around the turn of this century DVDs came along and lacked sophisticated/connected DRM implementations, but it is not inherent to their physical nature. Physical media also decays. DVDs generally have around 20-25 years before bitrot starts to set in. I love the concept, but you're better served by a hard drive than a DVD.
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I picked up a season 1 Metalocalypse from a thrift shop and it was dead. Itās such a gamble. Goodwill is getting really precious on their DVDs too - only really good deals if you find a season/box set that they havenāt broken up.
VHS seems more dependable, and VHS is dirt cheap. I got a pre-special edition Star Wars box set for $5, I got a season of MASH and Sergio Leoneās Dollars trilogy for $1 each. Lots of my local shops have $0.49 VHS bins.
Finding a VHS player can be a challenge. DVD players are super available, but I spent a month or so hunting for my current player. (The rewinders though - everywhere.)
Vinyl can also be found for pennies, but most of the good stuff is picked up quickly. If you are okay with mid jazz, classical music, and āgreatest hitsā compilations, the vinyl stacks are good to poke through.
I do like that all of my analog media is mine. No worries about it being pulled from streaming or altered or copyright weirdness - I can go back to 1998 and watch my Star Wars.
VHS, like video casettes? You might have forgotten about ghosting due to overwriting from adjacent layers.
