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I'm going to miss lemm.ee.

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  • J jimmycakes@lemmy.world

    Yeah but like who's gonna get mad if there's no corporate to report to. There's no ad space to sell. So you are spending energy moderation to what end?

    I'm just trying to understand the setup I guess. I just assumed people started lemmy to get away from over moderation on reddit. I been here since the api crackdown on reddit.

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    silasmariner@programming.dev
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    Legal authorities operating in the host country will not be thrilled if you have an instance filled with csam, and all sane users will also want to be heavily distanced from it. The latter applies to any content widely deemed objectionable, not just to illegal material - which makes the motive for moderation pretty reasonable IMO. If the moderation for a instance doesn't suit the users, users and communities are free to move to an instance that better suits them, and this does happen. It's a strength of the fediverse.

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    • A alteredego@lemmy.ml

      I really liked lemm.ee because it didn't defederate from the radical socialist and communist spectrum of political speech.

      But the other issue with a bigger instance like lemm.ee going down is that as long as communities can't be moved (including users and content) to other instances, the lemmy project will fail. Because then only centralization in a few big instances is viable, and those big instances are going to become valuable and sold to plutocrats.

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      tweak@feddit.uk
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      To be fair, lemm.ee didn't really act as host to any major communities to begin with. So communities aren't really the loss here, and it could be that having at least a few big active communities on an instance is a key part of maintaining its long term viability.

      Also, all the text posts and comments from lemm.ee will still remain on other instances. I'm sure the instance could also back up content, if the specific admin so desired to re-host.

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        ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf
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        I'm an .ee refugee. I just hope this stuff doesn't become the norm where instances get shut down

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        • R rabblerebel@lemmy.wtf

          I hope you're not calling tankies radical socialists or communists. Because .ml et al are authoritarian instances, not lefty.

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          professorowl_phd@hexbear.net
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          What do you think radical means in political contexts?

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          • demigodrick@lemmy.zipD demigodrick@lemmy.zip

            Hey, we are aware - I've made a comment here: https://lemmy.zip/post/40323214/19304384

            Tldr - try with a vpn!

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            snarkopolo@lemmy.zip
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            No joy, still tells me the JSON is malformed. Since I downloaded it from lemm.ee, I don't see how that's possible.

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            • R rabblerebel@lemmy.wtf

              I hope you're not calling tankies radical socialists or communists. Because .ml et al are authoritarian instances, not lefty.

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              funkystuff@hexbear.net
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              so interesting how hundreds of millions of leftists in Asia, Africa, Latin America, and other parts of the world (many of whom actually live in countries that had real, successful revolutions) are all apparently a bunch of idiots who don't realize they're being fooled, but the Westerners who have never had a successful socialist movement are the ones who truly understand the core of class struggle (and at the center of it all is "authoritarianism," a very real thing that definitely doesn't just describe the behavior of all states)

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              • S sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                I'm sorry but the best is dbzero. Lemm.ee was a damn good instance too though

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                irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Its where I moved to 🙂

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                • I ideonek@lemm.ee

                  Can you explain why Lemmy.zip or Lemmy.cafe specifcaly?

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                  irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  lemmy.zip is the most similar, it has a great admin and a similar federation policy.

                  Lemmy.cafe was just the second instance to come into my head.

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                  • A alteredego@lemmy.ml

                    I interact regularly with "those ml" instances and don't meet any (or not many) of people like you describe. I do believe it's mostly rumors, propaganda, cherry picking and liberal prejudice against socialists.

                    Do you still know what is real? The principle behind freedom of speech is about hearing dissenting voices that might tell you a truth that the mainstream won't.

                    In case you're curious, I also believe "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" so I often support or at least not condemn countries like Russia or China or Iran in their fight against the authoritarian US Empire. I'm a realist, pacifist and materialist, we already know what the regime change sought by the US will do to the people in "shithole" countries.

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                    jax@sh.itjust.works
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                    #146

                    The principle behind freedom of speech is about hearing dissenting voices that might tell you a truth that the mainstream won't.

                    I also believe "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" so I often support or at least not condemn countries like Russia or China or Iran in their fight against the authoritarian US Empire.

                    This is why I downvoted you.

                    Edit: looks like I pissed off the tankies. You people are transparent, FYI.

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                    • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      Its where I moved to 🙂

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                      sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      I saw that, which is why I allowed myself to gas it up here.

                      Again, just to be clear, no disrespect meant to lemm.ee refugees or the former admin, I just wanted to rep my instance to any potential former lemm.ee users because I like it here !

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                      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        I think it adds to our mystique that not even our regulars can spell it correctly 😄

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                        sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        I will now try to misspell it in a new way every time 🫡

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                        • T tweak@feddit.uk

                          To be fair, lemm.ee didn't really act as host to any major communities to begin with. So communities aren't really the loss here, and it could be that having at least a few big active communities on an instance is a key part of maintaining its long term viability.

                          Also, all the text posts and comments from lemm.ee will still remain on other instances. I'm sure the instance could also back up content, if the specific admin so desired to re-host.

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                          alteredego@lemmy.ml
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                          #149

                          Yeah the biggest communities seem to be movies and television, and my guess is that they'll be gobbled up by lemmy.world. But every community migration like currently looses subscriber members, and split communities mean a lack of interaction. Social network require a critical mass, and also benefit from centralization. While federation works great for users there isn't a real solution for communities yet. There is a lot of randomness involved, like who gets to be the first to make a community might be a bad mod in the long term. For example the reddit r/climate mod is a climate skeptic. Not sure if there is any better solution.

                          I'm just wondering how the best design for this problem would look like. Maybe the mod of a community could have some kind of key that he can transfer to another instance and automatically transfer all the user subscriptions and link the post history with them.

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                            razzazzika@lemm.ee
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                            Shit I'm out of the loop, is my account being deleted or something?

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                            • R razzazzika@lemm.ee

                              Shit I'm out of the loop, is my account being deleted or something?

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                              xeekei@lemmy.zip
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                              Yes. End of june.

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                              • R razzazzika@lemm.ee

                                Shit I'm out of the loop, is my account being deleted or something?

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                                roserose56@lemmy.ca
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                                #152

                                Out of loop? We had posts and posts about lemm.ee going down, how did you missed it?
                                Anyway, end of June lemm.ee is going down, which means it won't be accessible!
                                If you want to access lemmy after that, you have to find a new instance. Have a look here to search for a new instance.

                                Don't forget to export your profile settings from settings > Import/Export Settings > export.

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                                • R razzazzika@lemm.ee

                                  Shit I'm out of the loop, is my account being deleted or something?

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                                  irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  End of june, lemm.ee is shutting down.

                                  don't worry though, most communities are available on other instances.

                                  Just make a new account on lemmy.zip, export your settings/subscriptions from lemm.ee and import them on .zip.

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                                  • quietcupcake@hexbear.netQ quietcupcake@hexbear.net

                                    We arguably ARE the most lgbtq instance that isn't specifically about lgbtqia+ (it is about radical leftism which is inseperable from lgbtqia+ rights and liberation). And nah, my fidel-wut reaction is 100% appropriate here. What's more, hexbear is known for taking long and difficult looks into the mirror, to a degree liberal instances could never hope to do. Our resolute dedication to rooting out and correcting misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism and even just plain unrecognized privilege is well known and easily confirmed by looking at our history. Whatever lgbtq instance defederated from us was not because of homophobia or transphobia or anything like that, but rather their unwillingness to address the chasers infesting their community and our subsequent unwillingness to tolerate that kind of behavior and keep it from eroding the safe space that has been built through hard work and the dedication especially of the many trans people that make up our community. Trying to paint hexbear as anything other than in complete full support of lgbtqia+, which the vast majority of us are, is absurd and insulting.

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                                    railcar8095@lemm.ee
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                                    Trying to paint hexbear as anything other than in complete full support of lgbtqiat, which the vast majority of us are, is absurd and insulting.

                                    Well, I guess you can feel insulted then.

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                                    • roserose56@lemmy.caR roserose56@lemmy.ca

                                      Out of loop? We had posts and posts about lemm.ee going down, how did you missed it?
                                      Anyway, end of June lemm.ee is going down, which means it won't be accessible!
                                      If you want to access lemmy after that, you have to find a new instance. Have a look here to search for a new instance.

                                      Don't forget to export your profile settings from settings > Import/Export Settings > export.

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                                      razzazzika@lemm.ee
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                                      Been busy with moving and stuff. This is the first I saw anything. Thanks for the info.

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                                      • A alteredego@lemmy.ml

                                        Yeah the biggest communities seem to be movies and television, and my guess is that they'll be gobbled up by lemmy.world. But every community migration like currently looses subscriber members, and split communities mean a lack of interaction. Social network require a critical mass, and also benefit from centralization. While federation works great for users there isn't a real solution for communities yet. There is a lot of randomness involved, like who gets to be the first to make a community might be a bad mod in the long term. For example the reddit r/climate mod is a climate skeptic. Not sure if there is any better solution.

                                        I'm just wondering how the best design for this problem would look like. Maybe the mod of a community could have some kind of key that he can transfer to another instance and automatically transfer all the user subscriptions and link the post history with them.

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                                        tweak@feddit.uk
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                                        For me, the bigger problem with how Lemmy is federated is the way comments and posts have unique IDs for every instance. You can't easily find a comment or post from one instance on any other instance. With users, you just have /user/username@instance, what we need is /post/###@instance or /comment/###@instance. Instead, we just have /post/### and the ### is different everywhere (I think it's just sequential for every post/comment the instance federates).

                                        Maybe there's some reason they did it this way, but it feels like the better solution is to have the original host instance decide the number, then every other instance just use their number and their @instance.

                                        Pretty sure that was on the bug list 2 years ago.

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                                          orochi02@feddit.org
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                                          So what about all the valuble content in the Communities posted?

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