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  • candy_colors@lemmy.worldC candy_colors@lemmy.world

    Can someone please explain?

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    Cory Doctorow on new Bluesky TOS

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    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksP pelespirit@sh.itjust.works

      Maybe this?

      Bluesky rolls out massive revamp to policies and Community Guidelines

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      mesamunefire@piefed.social
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      Thanks, I have not kept up with the lore.

      Been on mastodon (actually gotosocial but same thing) for a bit now.

      I knew at some point blue would get enshitified. Didn't think it would happen so soon though.

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      • klu9@piefed.socialK klu9@piefed.social

        Cory Doctorow on new Bluesky TOS

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        Interesting that he's so optimistic about bluesky vs mastodon

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        • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS sexy_peach@feddit.org

          Interesting that he's so optimistic about bluesky vs mastodon

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          I think he has written about some of the better technical aspects of ATproto vs ActivityPub, but the one thing holding it back was how hard/expensive it was to host. Now apparently that final hurdle has been resolved.

          (NOTE: I am not an expert, just trying to recall from a little reading elsewhere)

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          • klu9@piefed.socialK klu9@piefed.social

            I think he has written about some of the better technical aspects of ATproto vs ActivityPub, but the one thing holding it back was how hard/expensive it was to host. Now apparently that final hurdle has been resolved.

            (NOTE: I am not an expert, just trying to recall from a little reading elsewhere)

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            Now apparently that final hurdle has been resolved.

            He says so in this article, but afaik you won't get a full bluesky node, just parts of it. So it's not fully decentralized. But you're not under their TOS apparently.

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              lodemike@lemmy.today
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              Bluesky? More like Blu Spy

              *laugh track*

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                Bluesky speedrunning enshittification.

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                  #12

                  Your meme templates get more exotic as time goes on.

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                  • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS sexy_peach@feddit.org

                    Now apparently that final hurdle has been resolved.

                    He says so in this article, but afaik you won't get a full bluesky node, just parts of it. So it's not fully decentralized. But you're not under their TOS apparently.

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                    Actually, you can host a full-network relay for $34 a month: https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3kwzl7tye6u2y (article by a bluesky engineer).

                    All the other pieces are self hostable, PDSes are trival to host, and would cost less than $5 a month.

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                    • lvxferre@mander.xyzL lvxferre@mander.xyz

                      Bluesky speedrunning enshittification.

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                      It's actually easy to dodge their enshittification with atproto.

                      If you get banned on mastodon, you can't move your followers to another server, but on bluesky you can get your rotation key and move them permissionlessly.

                      Alternate appviews can dodge shit decisions (like the OSA id thing), without you needing to make a new account or move servers.

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                      • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        Actually, you can host a full-network relay for $34 a month: https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3kwzl7tye6u2y (article by a bluesky engineer).

                        All the other pieces are self hostable, PDSes are trival to host, and would cost less than $5 a month.

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                        All the other pieces are self hostable, PDSes are trival to host, and would cost less than $5 a month.

                        No I think they still have control over the decentralized identifiers, ironically

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                        How decentralized is Bluesky really? -- Dustycloud Brainstorms

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                        • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS sexy_peach@feddit.org

                          All the other pieces are self hostable, PDSes are trival to host, and would cost less than $5 a month.

                          No I think they still have control over the decentralized identifiers, ironically

                          Link Preview Image
                          How decentralized is Bluesky really? -- Dustycloud Brainstorms

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                          You can use a web did.

                          But yeah, did:plc is a joke.

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                          • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS sexy_peach@feddit.org

                            All the other pieces are self hostable, PDSes are trival to host, and would cost less than $5 a month.

                            No I think they still have control over the decentralized identifiers, ironically

                            Link Preview Image
                            How decentralized is Bluesky really? -- Dustycloud Brainstorms

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                            Also: a lot of stuff from that article isn't really accurate anymore.

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                            • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              Also: a lot of stuff from that article isn't really accurate anymore.

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                              yeah, honestly I wish them luck

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                              • lvxferre@mander.xyzL lvxferre@mander.xyz

                                Bluesky speedrunning enshittification.

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                                redpandaraider@feddit.org
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                                I mean the name alone was a nail in the coffin. Bluesky for blue MAGA.

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                                  Bluesky? More like Blu Spy

                                  *laugh track*

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                                  thesohoriots@lemmy.world
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                                  funky slap bass

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                                  • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca
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                                    What happened this time?

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                                    • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      It's actually easy to dodge their enshittification with atproto.

                                      If you get banned on mastodon, you can't move your followers to another server, but on bluesky you can get your rotation key and move them permissionlessly.

                                      Alternate appviews can dodge shit decisions (like the OSA id thing), without you needing to make a new account or move servers.

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                                      notsteve_@piefed.ca
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                                      Are there any other instances of BS though? My understanding was that it's too costly to host so there's only the official one

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                                        Are there any other instances of BS though? My understanding was that it's too costly to host so there's only the official one

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                                        It's gotten cheaper.

                                        deer.social is an alt-client. app.wafrn.net is an alt-pds and appview.

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                                        • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          It's gotten cheaper.

                                          deer.social is an alt-client. app.wafrn.net is an alt-pds and appview.

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                                          notsteve_@piefed.ca
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                                          Oh sweet that's great to hear!

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