Ignorance is bliss
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I use connect and for me "frontpage" is "subbed"
I didn't experience that but I haven't tried it out for quite a long time, will do! & Thanks!
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The Fediverse is like a country, and an instance is like a town connected to the other towns in that country. You're free to travel, visit, and interact with people in all the other towns that have their roads connected.
Each town has its own rules and culture, but they generally get along with all the other towns in the country. You can even choose to build your own town with your own rules and have a road connected to the rest.
On the other hand places like Facebook or Twitter are like huge, walled cities where you can only interact with people inside that city. They also claim the rights to all of your data to sell off.
Nice analogy, I might repost this to !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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The Fediverse is like a country, and an instance is like a town connected to the other towns in that country. You're free to travel, visit, and interact with people in all the other towns that have their roads connected.
Each town has its own rules and culture, but they generally get along with all the other towns in the country. You can even choose to build your own town with your own rules and have a road connected to the rest.
On the other hand places like Facebook or Twitter are like huge, walled cities where you can only interact with people inside that city. They also claim the rights to all of your data to sell off.
Fediverse is like a country
I might even go one level up. The Fedeverse is like a network of connected countries like the EU.
Platforms like Reddit or Twitter are isolated countries like North Korea.
I'm glad I found my way out.
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Good.
The barrier to entry is a feature! All those fools on FB and Reddit are there because they're told there's no friction. It's the internet version of Wal-Mart. Anyone can find their way in.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes sign up for a Costco membership. It's a LOW barrier to entry, and that's more than enough.
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"Choose an instance that provides monthly reports, including finances, such as !home@lemmy.zip"
Hypothetical response:
"Sure, that's an option, but no other social media I use requires a routinely read regarding whether I need to backup my saved items because it might shut down."
Let me just be clear that I personally don't have a problem with how lemmy runs, but I do think that difficulties and issues are heavily downplayed for potential users.
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I don't understand why sometimes when I click on asklemmy at the top of the old.lemmy.world ui, sometimes it goes to regular asklemmy and sometimes it goes to asklemmy@lemmy.ml. And I don't understand why these two communities have completely different posts.
They are two completely different communities that just happen to share their names. (And one of them is full of tankies, while yours isn't)
How this works is the same with email: You can have john.smith@gmail.zz and you can have john.smith@outlook.com , but although those do have the same first name, the two addresses do not point to the same mailbox.
If a community is on your own instance (servers are called instances on Lemmy), then the part after @ is not shown. So, there is asklemmy@lemmy.world, and there is asklemmy@lemmy.ml. The latter one is luckily empty, as nothing on .ml is written without serious brainrot.
The one you see only as "asklemmy" is asklemmy@lemmy.world.
There are actually this many asklemmys:
Each of the above is an independent community. Each one was founded by a different person and has different moderators, etc.
When you login to Lemmy, you go to lemmy.world and login there.
I don't. I do not have a user account on lemmy.world, which is one of the instances (servers) for Lemmy.
However, I do have a user account on sopuli.xyz, which is another instance. When I log in to that, I can read anything written on any instances that have federated with sopuli.xyz. We are having this conversation in a community on yet another instance:
As you can see there, this community is located on an instance called lemmy.uk.So, I am reading this through sopuli.xyz, which has a connection to lemmy.uk. When I write something, Sopuli sends all the text to lemmy.uk which then saves it. And then your instance, lemmy.world, has a connection to lemmy.uk as well, and shows you whatever is shown on that instance. When a Lemmy-instance creates such a connection to another instance, it is called federating.
The nice thing about this construction is that if someone tries taking over Lemmy, they only take over their own instance. Its users can just migrate to another instance, create an account there and continue almost as if nothing had happened. And if some instance is not moderating its users' activities properly, other instances can defederate from it. That means: They can stop showing their users content from the badly behaving instance, and also the users from that instance won't see anything held on the other instance.
I hope this blabbering helped!
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You mean like a server? I hope it's not just Joe blows laptop with a cracked screen and bulging battery.
So federated is basically "you're allowed to post shit" within this list of other server?
If that's it then thank you, it makes a lot more sense now.
Yes, "instance" is the word used on Lemmy for what is usually called "server" elsewhere.
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Wow, so that's how it works. I signed up to a couple because they interested me and hoped in the future something would be posted, or I would, and then saw a heap of posts.
It wasn't dark magic after all. Perhaps it was psionics?
If one user of your instance is subscribed to a community on another instance, then that community is visible on that instance as well.
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Who is moe and why is her midriff so popular???
I have no idea but every once in a while they’re interesting.
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Fediverse is like a country
I might even go one level up. The Fedeverse is like a network of connected countries like the EU.
Platforms like Reddit or Twitter are isolated countries like North Korea.
I'm glad I found my way out.
You’re right. Bringing it up to the country level instead of towns probably fits better.
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Good.
The barrier to entry is a feature! All those fools on FB and Reddit are there because they're told there's no friction. It's the internet version of Wal-Mart. Anyone can find their way in.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes sign up for a Costco membership. It's a LOW barrier to entry, and that's more than enough.
Seems like a sound though-process
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we need more of these people more or less, even though yes, they're dumb, that's like.. most of the population when it comes to the internet (like, only the young people even know of reddit here, much less use it..) and then there's the specific niches that are barely living in lemmy.. ah, end users..
The fediverse is big enough for everyone, and unless there's ill-intent or something damaging in a user/instance, I don't see any point with excluding them. All this would do is limit growth, and may actually be the attitude that let's it shrink into a slow death.
If you don't like a user or instance, block them and go about your business.
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Hypothetical response:
"Sure, that's an option, but no other social media I use requires a routinely read regarding whether I need to backup my saved items because it might shut down."
Let me just be clear that I personally don't have a problem with how lemmy runs, but I do think that difficulties and issues are heavily downplayed for potential users.
As someone said in another comment “you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
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I think He's doing a lot of work in Asia now. Probably done with the westerners. They had their chance LOL
i think we'd heard about a second coming by now
also that's some typical absentee landlord behavior
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As someone said in another comment “you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
Yep. It's a good analogy. I'm not sure that this is the kind of argument which will get sceptics aboard, but I like it.
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It's just a bunch of reddits all whispering in each others ears
Hey sh.itjust.works, tell feddit.uk to leave this comment and upvote
Sh.itjust.works: "Hey feddit.uk, starman2112@sh.itjust.works said to leave this comment and upvote"
Feddit.uk: "Hey lemmy.zip, starman2112@sh.itjust.works left this comment"
Lemmy.zip: "Hey Blaze, starman2112@sh.itjust.works left a comment"
And then all the federated instances get on the group chat and update the vote counter
Edit: I didn't even realize I was commenting on feddit.uk lmao this game of telephone is wild
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The Reddit UI is so good though. I love browsing an album and accidentally sliding over to r/popular. Why can't Lemmy ask me to confirm my email account every time I try to look at porn?
App UI peaked at RIF
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It's not even that different really.
It's literally just reddit but a bunch of them
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Oh no I don't know how to choose a server and sign up, in fact I appear to not know anything at all.
- some end user
I swear to fucking god, when I become an end user, please shoot me in the head alright? I don't want to look like the biggest fucking moron on earth to anybody that is able to Google and read something for like 30 seconds.
I don't think the usability of Lemmy is the problem, it's just users not wanting to tune out of mainstream social media. Everybody is there. Why wouldn't they? It's where everyone is. And convincing people that the massive shift in the type of content you can consume is worth it to not be consuming the content all your friends consume.
It's a catch 22. The only thing we can do is to post as much content in the fediverse as possible.
I don't think framing the general public as incompetent is helping either.
Of course you didn't make the comparison in the first place. I really hope the vast majority of the users of social media are able to Google something. -
Good.
The barrier to entry is a feature! All those fools on FB and Reddit are there because they're told there's no friction. It's the internet version of Wal-Mart. Anyone can find their way in.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes sign up for a Costco membership. It's a LOW barrier to entry, and that's more than enough.
The barrier to entry is a feature!
What? No it isn't. Any individual instance is as simple to navigate as Reddit. The federation aspect is still in an early stage of development and implementation.
Twenty years ago, Reddit was in a similar state. It took a long time and a lot of effort to improve the system enough to be easily navigated and searchable (and then more time to mangle these features in the name of monetization).
But the idea that federated instances being difficult to traverse and filter against are intentional is utterly bogus.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes
If you're not navigating Lemmy via VIM, you are literally a baby who shits himself and needs someone to change his diaper.
