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  • A axel7fb5@lemmy.cafe

    element? it has its fair share of criticisms tho

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    awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works
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    #73

    Giving Up on Element & Matrix.org

    Yeah, I looked into it at some point but it does not look suitable for big groups that include non techies.

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    • A awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works

      Um. As a simple place for a group to chat and communicate via text?

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      zagorath@aussie.zone
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      #74

      Discord's great for that. But so many games and software are using it instead of forums or proper issue trackers now. It's a pretty serious downgrade.

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      • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ zagorath@aussie.zone

        Discord's great for that. But so many games and software are using it instead of forums or proper issue trackers now. It's a pretty serious downgrade.

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        awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works
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        #75

        Yeah I get the downside of those. But I find it weird how so many people blast discord when it's just about the only option for simple modern text based chat groups

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        • D drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone

          It’s literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally

          Sentiments that would be completely incomprehensible 20 years ago.

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          zagorath@aussie.zone
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          #76

          Eh, it's not that different from the way humans have always been. Maybe you didn't like drinking in the 19th century, but if the local pub is where all your mates meet up to hang out, then the pub is where you go.

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          • A awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works

            Um. As a simple place for a group to chat and communicate via text?

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            smeg@feddit.uk
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            #77

            Is it better than Signal/WhatsApp for that?

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            • S smeg@feddit.uk

              Is it better than Signal/WhatsApp for that?

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              awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works
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              #78

              Signal / WhatsApp are messengers, they're meant for 1 to 1 or small groups. They don't handle large groups well, for which you want things like rooms, roles, moderation, etc. Different niches.

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              • violetsoftness@piefed.blahaj.zoneV violetsoftness@piefed.blahaj.zone

                it's actually really easy to know what they were thinking because they were very clear with their statement, you seem to have just misread it I guess. I'm glad you don't want to argue about it because I don't want to argue either!

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                trickdacy@lemmy.world
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                #79

                It's literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally

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                • A awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works

                  Signal / WhatsApp are messengers, they're meant for 1 to 1 or small groups. They don't handle large groups well, for which you want things like rooms, roles, moderation, etc. Different niches.

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                  smeg@feddit.uk
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                  #80

                  Ah, so large groups specifically? Fair enough

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                  • S smeg@feddit.uk

                    Ah, so large groups specifically? Fair enough

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                    awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works
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                    #81

                    Yeah, I run a hobby club with like 200 members in discord. Handling that in WhatsApp or signal would be such a pain.

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                    • A awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works

                      Signal / WhatsApp are messengers, they're meant for 1 to 1 or small groups. They don't handle large groups well, for which you want things like rooms, roles, moderation, etc. Different niches.

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                      zeca@lemmy.ml
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                      #82

                      What about rocket chat? It has rooms and all,i think it handles large groups fine

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                      • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                        It's literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally

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                        violetsoftness@piefed.blahaj.zone
                        wrote on last edited by violetsoftness@piefed.blahaj.zone
                        #83

                        if I tell you it's not possible for me to poop in your pool that doesn't mean i'm telling you it's not possible for me to poop.

                        If you focus on one single word in a sentence and ignore the way the other words change that sentence you have failed to grasp the meaning of the sentence.

                        I deleted my reply comment to you above within 30 seconds after making it because I realized I was arguing with you even after you said you didn't want to. If your instance didn't federate that then I apologize.

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                          glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz
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                          #84

                          discord is an evil spirit and i am anti-discord puritan ᗜ‸ᗜ

                          javascript bloatware with pop-up advertisement for you to buy nitro-shit to post glowy animated stuff

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                          • A awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works

                            Afaict, it doesn't really have any major competitors. No, if I have to self host, it's not a competitor

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                            sunshine@piefed.ca
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                            Using discord or self-hosting matrix/XMPP is a false dichotomy. One can join the already established servers available for either protocol.

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                            • D dragontypewyvern@midwest.social

                              You should gatekeep Discord because it fucking sucks

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                              sunshine@piefed.ca
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                              #86

                              The issue is that so many amazing groups are using it. I wish they would use matrix/xmpp instead.

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                              • A awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works

                                It's not like there's any actual alternative with decent UI that doesn't require self hosting or a subscription.

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                                sunshine@piefed.ca
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                                #87

                                !buyeuropean@feddit.uk has a directory of matrix instances on the sidebar one can join.

                                Fluffy Chat and Cinny are considered decent third-party Matrix clients way better than Element.

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                                • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca

                                  Using discord or self-hosting matrix/XMPP is a false dichotomy. One can join the already established servers available for either protocol.

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                                  awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works
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                                  #88

                                  I gave element / matrix a try recently. It's a very different use case, as (AFAICT) it does not support multi-channel rooms (or whatever you call it). The closest analogue would be WhatsApp / Telegram / Signal.

                                  Also, multi device login is wonky as hell, took me 20 mins of repeated attempts to get it working.

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