Are you doing your part?
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I’m fairly certain linking Lemmy, even once, yields a shadow ban.
I cant even make a new Reddit account for anything, even from a relatively new IP after moving.
Yeah, they've been ringing the ban hammer quite hard lately.
I love lemmy, but I still miss my niche communities.
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I don't think so. I see people on r/fediverse linking it.
Mmm, I don't like that, as now I have no idea why I'm shadowbanned.
And by that, I don't mean "I don't know why I was banned for all my outrageous spammy comments." I literally only posted wholesome, inoffensive, thought out stuff in 2 subs: a cartoon fandom and a self hosting community.
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The response though is interesting to me because when the right faced the same pressure it rallied them. They made so much noise and used every lever they could. Like the littlest 86 year old Republican grandpa took to online accounts and became obsessed with making sure people could say racist facist bullshit online. But people on the left retreated. We said things like "don't wressle with pigs" like we're better than it all. When I bring this up to people the say "well they're just funded" but it's like they don't understand that funding probably paid for a lot of accounts to convince us to retreat. My 2 cents anyways.
it’s like they don’t understand that funding probably paid for a lot of accounts to convince us to retreat
Easy to forget that Social Media is a game in which the scores are made up and the points don't really matter. People just get very tied up in their ahem Social Credit Score as it were. They seem frighteningly quick to torch their own reputations with IRL peers in order to score some cheap digs for the applause of a fully automated audience.
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The response though is interesting to me because when the right faced the same pressure it rallied them. They made so much noise and used every lever they could. Like the littlest 86 year old Republican grandpa took to online accounts and became obsessed with making sure people could say racist facist bullshit online. But people on the left retreated. We said things like "don't wressle with pigs" like we're better than it all. When I bring this up to people the say "well they're just funded" but it's like they don't understand that funding probably paid for a lot of accounts to convince us to retreat. My 2 cents anyways.
I think people on the left retreated because their ideals don't involve violence and hate in the first place, so they just didn't want to be tangled up in it. I'm only so motivated to interact with nazi scum, I'd much rather not, so yeah, they can have their spaces because I don't have the mental capacity to live my life peacefully and also fight with idiots on the internet.
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I think people on the left retreated because their ideals don't involve violence and hate in the first place, so they just didn't want to be tangled up in it. I'm only so motivated to interact with nazi scum, I'd much rather not, so yeah, they can have their spaces because I don't have the mental capacity to live my life peacefully and also fight with idiots on the internet.
But you understand retreating gives Nazi scum access to more eyes and ears which grows louder and bolder nazi scum. Like you can choose to disengage but it's only momentarily. It now isn't just online, you're probably seeing family and friends or coworkers or random conversations waiting for coffee that sound questionable. It's easier to put a fire out when it's smoulder then when it's engulfing half the forest. You can walk away when it's smouldering but it's only going to grow
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A platform without ads or evil corpo ownership? Yeah, I'd scared too.
Is that neonazi subreddit that uses baby speak to subvert the admins still around?
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But you understand retreating gives Nazi scum access to more eyes and ears which grows louder and bolder nazi scum. Like you can choose to disengage but it's only momentarily. It now isn't just online, you're probably seeing family and friends or coworkers or random conversations waiting for coffee that sound questionable. It's easier to put a fire out when it's smoulder then when it's engulfing half the forest. You can walk away when it's smouldering but it's only going to grow
I know, but I also have a life, and I'm just trying to not be fucking angry all the time already, so no, I can't fight every fucking moment, and currently it's not the nazis agitating me, it's you telling me I need to be angry. Don't fucking tell me what I see with my own eyes in the world I fucking live in, Im quite aware, thanks, and I'd like to perseve as much peace in it as I can.
Trust me when I say I have to fight on my own terms, if that's not good enough for you, you can also rot with the nazis
E: don't take it personally, I'm more angry with the sentiment than with the person who says it, it ain't you
E2: Fuck you got me started LOL. Look, for clarity, I have spent my entire life as the angry righteous idealogue you want people to be, and let me tell you, it has produced nothing but misery in my life, so I'm disengaging with that part of me as best I can. If that's my story, I imagine other people have similar experiences. Not every fight is with blood, some of them are with compassion and understanding. Those are the ones I want to fight until the bloody fight comes to me
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Reddit seems to be in purge mode so that the AI doesn't develop too many problematic leftist opinions. I was looking back to an old post critizing CS Lewis and the comments were absolutely nuked since my last visit.
We're curious. What's wrong with CS Lewis? If you want to say.
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I know, but I also have a life, and I'm just trying to not be fucking angry all the time already, so no, I can't fight every fucking moment, and currently it's not the nazis agitating me, it's you telling me I need to be angry. Don't fucking tell me what I see with my own eyes in the world I fucking live in, Im quite aware, thanks, and I'd like to perseve as much peace in it as I can.
Trust me when I say I have to fight on my own terms, if that's not good enough for you, you can also rot with the nazis
E: don't take it personally, I'm more angry with the sentiment than with the person who says it, it ain't you
E2: Fuck you got me started LOL. Look, for clarity, I have spent my entire life as the angry righteous idealogue you want people to be, and let me tell you, it has produced nothing but misery in my life, so I'm disengaging with that part of me as best I can. If that's my story, I imagine other people have similar experiences. Not every fight is with blood, some of them are with compassion and understanding. Those are the ones I want to fight until the bloody fight comes to me
Lol I get it, so no need to apologize. I just think we did it all wrong. We get angry because something is missing from our approach. Like there's some injustice. I'm not saying people need to be out there every day engaging with toxic assholes or bots. But I do think we all should recognize that not doing that, is helping the spread of these fuckers. One thing I noticed is people of the left had different goals and then people on the right and that burnt them out. The right approached online spaces like they were meeting friends to make fun of and pick on the left. The left was only reacting to things as they happened. They weren't having fun with any of it.
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A platform without ads or evil corpo ownership? Yeah, I'd scared too.
I'm here aren't I
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A platform without ads or evil corpo ownership? Yeah, I'd scared too.
Fun fact, I got banned from reddit the other day for saying something sarcastic. So I did the appeal thing, but all I said was "Fuck you, you fucking gaggle of cave brained cunts." And... they reversed the ban. So I guess, they dont even bother reading whatever shit you write in the appeal, they just look at the comment and uphold or rescind the bot ban. Pricks.
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I’m fairly certain linking Lemmy, even once, yields a shadow ban.
I cant even make a new Reddit account for anything, even from a relatively new IP after moving.
Shadowbans are illegal in the EU. They are technically legal but require the user to be notified of it, which doesn't make it a "shadowban" anymore.
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Lol I get it, so no need to apologize. I just think we did it all wrong. We get angry because something is missing from our approach. Like there's some injustice. I'm not saying people need to be out there every day engaging with toxic assholes or bots. But I do think we all should recognize that not doing that, is helping the spread of these fuckers. One thing I noticed is people of the left had different goals and then people on the right and that burnt them out. The right approached online spaces like they were meeting friends to make fun of and pick on the left. The left was only reacting to things as they happened. They weren't having fun with any of it.
Yeah, the disconnect behind the methodologies and desires allows open spaces to be filled with loud hateful idiots, it's hard to just progress as a society when one side is so motivated to be hateful in the vacuum of saner people going elsewhere. Not entirely sure what to do about that. It feels like a paradox or a catch 22, it's hard on the psyche to inhabit a space that's hostile, but moving out of it just enables loud hateful idiots to be louder, and feel they arent opposed until that space becomes a walled garden of nazis and bots circlejerking their hate.
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Yeah, the disconnect behind the methodologies and desires allows open spaces to be filled with loud hateful idiots, it's hard to just progress as a society when one side is so motivated to be hateful in the vacuum of saner people going elsewhere. Not entirely sure what to do about that. It feels like a paradox or a catch 22, it's hard on the psyche to inhabit a space that's hostile, but moving out of it just enables loud hateful idiots to be louder, and feel they arent opposed until that space becomes a walled garden of nazis and bots circlejerking their hate.
Which i think is why we approached it wrong. I watched something with Lefty's where they just want to be right. When that doesn't happen they get so mad. Like an injustice has occurred. What I noticed with rightys are they enjoy watching the lefty attempt to change their view while fully knowing it'll never happen. It's like some schadenfreude. I think we need that. Logic and reason will come later with some people. I think it's recognize you're dealing with an immovable object and just turn it into a play thing
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Time to open r/notlemmy
get totallynotlemmy ready while you are at it
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Is that neonazi subreddit that uses baby speak to subvert the admins still around?
Fren world?
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A platform without ads or evil corpo ownership? Yeah, I'd scared too.
Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.
But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!
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Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.
But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!
Not true! you can get into arguments with random people about Marxism AND Linux!
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I can never block reddit. My go-to workflow for buying any product is usually:
- Perplexity / Claude: "what are some good recommendations for <productX>?"
- Skim what it writes, mentally note that it's probably extrapolating from little data on <productX>
- Scroll down to the sources, click on the Reddit ones.
- Check that the date is somewhat reasonably in the past (+3yrs is always good)
- Scroll to that one single comment that provides insightful feedback
This is why I never deleted my reddit accounts after I migrated -- I just couldn't throw away all of the hard written insightful comments I'd made there over ~15 years, and knew that an AI (and by extension future me) might find it beneficial.
(I'm not against AI, I'm against what capitalism is doing with AI)
I don't think they actually delete any of that stuff when you delete your account, though.
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Listen, I respect the meme, but I'm not sure I want to say I'm on Team Space Fascist.
If it makes you feel better, not enough people who saw that movie recognize that the protagonists are the bad guys. So, it sort of comes out in the wash?
