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That Moment When A Project Fully Embraces Open-Standards

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  • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca
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    mitm0@lemmy.world
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    Where's XMPP ?

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      I still don't get what the functional advantage of comaps would be. Organic maps is pretty good already.

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      #17

      Organic maps has become shady just during the time when the Russia has started using different ways of forcing Russians abroad into spying for the Russia. Organic Maps is not maintained by Russians, but it is being maintained by Belarusians, and the Russia has been pressing the same things in Belarus as well.

      It is a bit scary that a program that knows your location by GPS is doing shady things, if it's maintained by people who are reasonably likely to deliver some data to Lukashenka and Putin. The timing of them turning shady is very suspicious. It might be there's nothing really bad about OrganicMaps, but I cannot know. I know people who the Russia might be interested in pressuring, so my location could also be of interest for them. Since there's nothing where Comaps is worse than Organic Maps, I preferred to make the switch. That way, I don't need to consider the possibility that my maps program might be leaking my data to the most sinister people on this planet.

      If you get a threat that your family might end up in a very uncomfortable prison for the rest of their lives, in a country where torture is commonplace in prisons, you might very well agree to throw unknown foreign people under the bus. One's own children and parents can easily be more important for someone than I am. And people can do a LOT to protect their loved ones.

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      • huppakee@feddit.nlH huppakee@feddit.nl

        I switched from Google Maps to Organic Maps after trying a bunch of alternatives, didn't know about CoMaps then; but since I learned this is a fork of my favourite big tech alternative i've been postponing installing this. Seems like there are a lot of people positive about it here, so couldn't postpone any longer. It's installing as we speak.

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        cavemanfreak@programming.dev
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        I just downloaded it to try it out. I'm missing the options Google Maps gives for routes though. The map app doesn't always know best, so it's better to give a few options imo.

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          not_io@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          #19

          open standards

          bluesky

          πŸ™„

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          • L lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            Oversimplified, it's like a federated Discord

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            korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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            I do wish more things I used would move to matrix or IRC. Perhaps I just need to refuse to use discord

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              axel7fb5@lemmy.cafe
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              And then there are complete opposites who only communicate via Discord and Github

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              • propter_hog@hexbear.netP propter_hog@hexbear.net

                Inferred from another comment that it's CoMaps. Looked it up to confirm:

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                #22

                Thanks! Turned out the F-droid version was less updated.

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                • L lars@lemmy.sdf.org

                  If you like Organic Maps, you’ll love CoMaps, and the righteous indignation you have every time you use it if you place their icons side by side or make a donation.

                  (Organic Maps was promising, but has made shady and unilateral decisions without community input or even notification).

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                  coldsideofyourpillow@piefed.social
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                  (Organic Maps was promising, but has made shady and unilateral decisions without community input or even notification).

                  Could you elaborate on this?

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                  • N not_io@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                    open standards

                    bluesky

                    πŸ™„

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                    irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    I mean, whether or not they're decentralised, they are on an open standard.

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                    • coldsideofyourpillow@piefed.socialC coldsideofyourpillow@piefed.social

                      (Organic Maps was promising, but has made shady and unilateral decisions without community input or even notification).

                      Could you elaborate on this?

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                      lars@lemmy.sdf.org
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                      Open Letter to Organic Maps Shareholders

                      favicon

                      (openletter.earth)

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                      • C cavemanfreak@programming.dev

                        I just downloaded it to try it out. I'm missing the options Google Maps gives for routes though. The map app doesn't always know best, so it's better to give a few options imo.

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                        huppakee@feddit.nl
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                        For public transport i prefer to use HERE, which is owned by a bunch of car companies i believe. Might also be good for navigation by car i wouldn't know. But although i havent found a big difference between Comaps and Organic Maps i'm inclined to continue using it.

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                        • N not_io@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                          open standards

                          bluesky

                          πŸ™„

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                          threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works
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                          Hey, they did list Mastodon first.

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                          • huppakee@feddit.nlH huppakee@feddit.nl

                            I switched from Google Maps to Organic Maps after trying a bunch of alternatives, didn't know about CoMaps then; but since I learned this is a fork of my favourite big tech alternative i've been postponing installing this. Seems like there are a lot of people positive about it here, so couldn't postpone any longer. It's installing as we speak.

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                            bob_lemon@feddit.org
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                            I've recently gone back to using osmand~. CoMaps doesn't support GPX navigation (can only display the track), which is really important for preplanned cycle tours. And I don't drive enough with a car to gauge the navigation there.

                            Still a great project, it just doesn't fit my personal needs at all.

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                              renard_roux@beehaw.org
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                              #29

                              Strange, absolutely can't get F-Droid to show CoMaps, even with direct links πŸ˜”


                              Search results in F-Droid

                              Does F-Droid restrict access to apps based on geolocation? In Scandinavia πŸ€”


                              Link (F-Droid button) from official site

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                              • R renard_roux@beehaw.org

                                Strange, absolutely can't get F-Droid to show CoMaps, even with direct links πŸ˜”


                                Search results in F-Droid

                                Does F-Droid restrict access to apps based on geolocation? In Scandinavia πŸ€”


                                Link (F-Droid button) from official site

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                                eddowagt@feddit.nl
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                                Works fine for me using droidify

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                                  Other open source projects or so called β€œfreedom advocates”, take note!

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                                    macallan@lemmy.world
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                                    No Satellite view. ☹️

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                                      pfr@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                      I know I'll probably get a serve for this, bit I use HERE WeGo maps. I know it's proprietary, I know it still tracks data. But it's not Google, and I always use offline maps and navigation. I just can't get behind the ugly UI of OSM, Organic/CoMaps etc.

                                      I'm on GrapheneOS so I can setup scopes for network access if it needs permissions β€” it works without network permission, I just enable it to update maps periodically. It also works with android auto.

                                      Of course, if you're comfortable with OSM or CoMaps UI then that's the better choice. I'm just sharing my experience.

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                                        Strange, absolutely can't get F-Droid to show CoMaps, even with direct links πŸ˜”


                                        Search results in F-Droid

                                        Does F-Droid restrict access to apps based on geolocation? In Scandinavia πŸ€”


                                        Link (F-Droid button) from official site

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                                        smokinliver@sopuli.xyz
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                                        Did you check tethering under settings>unwanted properties (ot something like that)?

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                                        • R renard_roux@beehaw.org

                                          Strange, absolutely can't get F-Droid to show CoMaps, even with direct links πŸ˜”


                                          Search results in F-Droid

                                          Does F-Droid restrict access to apps based on geolocation? In Scandinavia πŸ€”


                                          Link (F-Droid button) from official site

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                                          brisk@aussie.zone
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                                          It's currently hit by the "tethered network services" anti feature, which is hidden by default.

                                          They are working on removing the anti feature

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