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  • absentbird@lemm.eeA absentbird@lemm.ee

    In the Bible story God made the first set, but they were destroyed by Moses in a meltdown. Moses had to carve the rewritten replacements which are the ones that get written down.

    Regardless of whether someone thinks Moses is historical, the story itself is a coup of sorts.

    Unrelated, but has anyone else noticed the ten commandments read like a bad AI prompt?

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    dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
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    Ah yeah forgot that part. Been awhile since Sunday school.

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    • sundray@lemmus.orgS sundray@lemmus.org

      Bob the Angry Flower - The First Commandment

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      industrystandard@lemmy.world
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      I think it says "thou shalt have no other gods besides me."

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      • H hakunawazo@lemmy.world

        If Cthulhu is your number 2 you immediately need to check for hemmorhoids.

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        _stranger_@lemmy.world
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        Nothing cleans you put better than a tablespoon of incomprehensible, mind shattering horror in your morning coffee.

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        • D dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works

          "when Moses wrote the tablets"

          The historical context here is really interesting, but this line is a head scratcher. A) god didn't write the tablets, Moses did it himself, B) tacit support for historicity of Moses. It's like not the religious viewpoint, but not the secular one either. Though I may be splitting hairs about a nonessential clause here.

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          humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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          #73
          1. religion is capable of inventing a god that doesn't exist.
          2. Israelites needed a propaganda boost to rebel against Phoenecians, and offshoot religion helps.
          3. Elders that went up to the mountaintop with Moses can unanimously be on board with Hasbara to fuel war against Phoenicians. Ends justify the lie.
          4. Yaweh becomes supreme god, and Phoenicians deserve death for failing to accept all commandments. Including/especially the very weird idolatry one, that gods would typically accept as narcissistic reverence. Thou shalt kill all heretics.
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          • sundray@lemmus.orgS sundray@lemmus.org

            Bob the Angry Flower - The First Commandment

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            vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
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            There's a logical problem to a language-based religion, in that even a literal interpretation is still an interpretation. Your understanding is not infallible, and no one on Earth likely believes The Bible, 100% verbatim, yet many claim to.

            If the source material is always fuzzy then who is to say what a real christian is? Who is the authority? What is? The book itself isn't sentient and Jesus isn't here to break any ties.

            But then, you'll get people who say they know God, that they talk to God and it would seem as though their belief and participation is, from their perspective, at least, beyond the limitations of the Christian source-code. They allegedly know God via dimensional speed-dial via.... vibes. I don't believe he does, but they do, so, rules of engagement, I temporarily have to believe he does until I'm done speaking to the person with mental health problems.

            Living in the American south is like having multiple gears of belief to swap into like a 6-speed transmission based on who you're talking to. Alright, what flavor of kool aid is this person drinking?...

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            • sundray@lemmus.orgS sundray@lemmus.org

              Bob the Angry Flower - The First Commandment

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              menas@lemmy.wtf
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              You want it, you've got it : https://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/20-3-compare.html

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              • M menas@lemmy.wtf

                You want it, you've got it : https://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/20-3-compare.html

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                nexguy@lemmy.world
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                All of the translations have something in common... they say have no "other gods". They don't say "there are no other gods"

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                • I industrystandard@lemmy.world

                  I think it says "thou shalt have no other gods besides me."

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                  m0darn@lemmy.ca
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                  I think that is just how monotheists prefer to translate it, I believe "before" is more impartial.

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                  • nexguy@lemmy.worldN nexguy@lemmy.world

                    All of the translations have something in common... they say have no "other gods". They don't say "there are no other gods"

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                    menas@lemmy.wtf
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                    #78

                    There is some, but not the most part :

                    The Message Bible
                    3 No other gods, only me.

                    Knowing which some is the most accurate is a multi millennium debate, with not clear answer. Shall digging in ?

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                    • quarterswede@lemmy.worldQ quarterswede@lemmy.world

                      No, he was speaking to the triune God, 3 in 1, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They are the same God.

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                      diykeyboards@lemmy.world
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                      #79

                      The trinity is a post-biblical reinterpretation, from around 4th century AD.

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                      • sundray@lemmus.orgS sundray@lemmus.org

                        Bob the Angry Flower - The First Commandment

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                        mdurell@lemmy.world
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                        It's just hard to directly translate accurately from the original Klingon texts.

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                        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

                          Peter Watts, Echopraxia

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                          shalafi@lemmy.world
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                          Another man of class I see. Would you care for a glass of sherry in my reading room? Or perhaps a cold Keystone in my living room? Either way, you are most welcome.

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