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Is this the typical behaviour of fediverse users? Posts in Apple and Nintendo communities immediately get downvoted by people disliking the companies. Can’t they just block the communities?

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  • J jet@hackertalks.com

    I've had to remove the person your talking to from several communities for always downvoting the content, they don't hate everything, but the things they hate they love to hate.

    Their philosophy, suppress the things you don't like, doesn't scale to a general population. For every topic there will be people who don't like it. So if everybody can suppress everybody else, everybody suppressed, participation is chilled, lemmy dies.

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    mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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    #84

    Than you for the comment, the fediverse work and what I think/hope is some sneaky otpimism in there.

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      tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      #85

      for some reason i literally can't downvote anything

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      • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

        A basic question about your position hurts your brain? Really?

        Though, given that more than a few moderators have chimed in, I can see why.

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        spankmonkey@lemmy.world
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        #86

        Jet has an automated removal bot that will nuke someone for a single down vote. Their opinion is worthless because their moderation is dog shit.

        Your question made my brain hurt because I had no idea how you think my opinion did a 180 because I pointed out that you don't practice what you preach.

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        • misk@piefed.socialM misk@piefed.social

          Valve is exempt from this for some reason however. It’s more like stereotypical basement dwellers treat this like a game where you win by accumulating more imaginary internet points. This kind of tribal behaviour is why threadiverse seems to be failing but at least some people get to feel superior to others in the meantime.

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          slazer2au@lemmy.world
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          #87

          There are plenty of reasons to be shitty at valve but my understanding is the steam deck is modable without breaking warranty

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          • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

            Than you for the comment, the fediverse work and what I think/hope is some sneaky otpimism in there.

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            jet@hackertalks.com
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            I am optimistic, that is why I'm here!

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            • lvxferre@mander.xyzL lvxferre@mander.xyz

              Expanding on what I said to another user. The problem with simply removing downvotes is that people still find low-hanging fruits to voice disagreement through, often worse than the downvotes. Then there are two choices:

              • let them be. Hexbear does this, and its users use emotes instead, that increase the visibility of bad content.
              • moderate against it. Beehaw does this, and it burdens its moderation team further.

              Note mod burden is the major reason Beehaw is not federated with LW or SJW, even if its admins would be otherwise OK with those two.

              It's things like this that make me think we (people discontent with downvotes) are a bit too eager to throw the resource away because of its flaws, instead of trying to address them.

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              jillyb@beehaw.org
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              #89

              I don't think you're wrong about the tradeoffs, I just think the tradeoff is worth it.

              What if all votes were hidden? You could still press the buttons and it would affect the sorting, but nobody sees the number.

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              • tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneT tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                for some reason i literally can't downvote anything

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                sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works
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                #90

                Instances can disable this feature maybe blahaj has done so?

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                • rikudou@lemmings.worldR rikudou@lemmings.world

                  That sounds like a you issue, not the comparison's.

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                  missingno@fedia.io
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                  #91

                  Are you saying you would report someone to instance admins for talking about Mario Kart?

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                    rikudou@lemmings.world
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                    #92

                    Do you feel like that's what I was saying?

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                    • S skavau@piefed.social

                      No, to be fair, they can ban the downvoters

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                      marcos@lemmy.world
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                      #93

                      Yes, they can. But that's quite a lot of permanent work. Lots of people interact with the content here without even looking where it is.

                      I have only seen the "bad" unaligned communities doing that. The ones that actually have interesting stuff seem to just live with the votes.

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                      • M marcos@lemmy.world

                        Yes, they can. But that's quite a lot of permanent work. Lots of people interact with the content here without even looking where it is.

                        I have only seen the "bad" unaligned communities doing that. The ones that actually have interesting stuff seem to just live with the votes.

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                        skavau@piefed.social
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                        #94

                        I don't mean ban every downvoter, but ban repeat downvoters. People who are clearly downvoting most things posted without any pattern.

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                        • rikudou@lemmings.worldR rikudou@lemmings.world

                          Do you feel like that's what I was saying?

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                          missingno@fedia.io
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                          #95

                          I feel like you're being willfully obtuse pretending not to understand the difference between being a Nazi and liking Mario Kart.

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                          • tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneT tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                            for some reason i literally can't downvote anything

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                            awesomelowlander@sh.itjust.works
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                            You're on a no-downvote instance.

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                              mbm@lemmings.world
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                              #97

                              I still think downvotes (and upvotes!) should count for more when they come from subscribers. At least for sorting within the community

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                                rikudou@lemmings.world
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                                #98

                                That's rich coming from you mister "would you report Mario Kart to instance admins."

                                Anyway, this is getting tiring, so bye.

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                                • rikudou@lemmings.worldR rikudou@lemmings.world

                                  That's rich coming from you mister "would you report Mario Kart to instance admins."

                                  Anyway, this is getting tiring, so bye.

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                                  missingno@fedia.io
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                                  I'm making a point about why these are not the same thing, and you're willfully ignoring that point.

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                                  • tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneT tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                    for some reason i literally can't downvote anything

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                                    pyroneurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    Sorry, sister. As others have said Blahaj Zone doesn't do downvotes. I think it was to ensure a less negative space for The Community (in that you can still downvote things and brigade without being clocked as bigoted) but that's a bit apocryphal.

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                                    • bizarroland@lemmy.worldB bizarroland@lemmy.world

                                      I try my best to only downvote explicitly hateful or unhelpful comments

                                      But I can get it because I have blocked every single news source I possibly can, and like every three to eight days a new one pops up.

                                      Like, I don't give a fuck about news. I don't want to know how miserable the world is or how much more miserable it is than yesterday. I want to look at kitties and titties and maybe some funny stuff in between and that's about it.

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                                      kombatwombat@lemmy.world
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                                      Once you amass a collection of communities that do interest you, you could browse your subscribed feed instead of all. That's what I've done. It got annoying needing to skip past a lot of content that wasn't relevant to me, was crossposted and showed up as duplicates, or was in a language I don't speak. Then you have a whitelist you can grow when you feel like it instead of a blacklist that needs to be added to when new communities show up. Subbing to one of those new community promotion places lets you see most of the active new communities anyway, and you can check out any interesting ones without them invading your feed first.

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                                        acefuzzlord@lemmy.zip
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                                        Can't they just block the communities?

                                        Already 2 steps ahead, 3 steps backwards, and 2 forwards. If one shows up on the "all" feed, I block it. Ain't much left AFAIK.

                                        It's best for me to block them rather than just downvote a random post purely based on the community it's in.

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                                        • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS spankmonkey@lemmy.world

                                          Jet has an automated removal bot that will nuke someone for a single down vote. Their opinion is worthless because their moderation is dog shit.

                                          Your question made my brain hurt because I had no idea how you think my opinion did a 180 because I pointed out that you don't practice what you preach.

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                                          mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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                                          #103

                                          I pointed out that you don’t practice what you preach.

                                          That's uhhhh, an interesting conclusion.

                                          How do you mean? Have you decided that this simple thought:

                                          But the downside is that people then upvote or downvote based on their preferences, not the community’s.

                                          somehow secretly also means "don't ever downvote" ?

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