But you understand retreating gives Nazi scum access to more eyes and ears which grows louder and bolder nazi scum. Like you can choose to disengage but it's only momentarily. It now isn't just online, you're probably seeing family and friends or coworkers or random conversations waiting for coffee that sound questionable. It's easier to put a fire out when it's smoulder then when it's engulfing half the forest. You can walk away when it's smouldering but it's only going to grow

Is that neonazi subreddit that uses baby speak to subvert the admins still around?

I know, but I also have a life, and I'm just trying to not be fucking angry all the time already, so no, I can't fight every fucking moment, and currently it's not the nazis agitating me, it's you telling me I need to be angry. Don't fucking tell me what I see with my own eyes in the world I fucking live in, Im quite aware, thanks, and I'd like to perseve as much peace in it as I can.

Trust me when I say I have to fight on my own terms, if that's not good enough for you, you can also rot with the nazis

E: don't take it personally, I'm more angry with the sentiment than with the person who says it, it ain't you

E2: Fuck you got me started LOL. Look, for clarity, I have spent my entire life as the angry righteous idealogue you want people to be, and let me tell you, it has produced nothing but misery in my life, so I'm disengaging with that part of me as best I can. If that's my story, I imagine other people have similar experiences. Not every fight is with blood, some of them are with compassion and understanding. Those are the ones I want to fight until the bloody fight comes to me

We're curious. What's wrong with CS Lewis? If you want to say.

Lol I get it, so no need to apologize. I just think we did it all wrong. We get angry because something is missing from our approach. Like there's some injustice. I'm not saying people need to be out there every day engaging with toxic assholes or bots. But I do think we all should recognize that not doing that, is helping the spread of these fuckers. One thing I noticed is people of the left had different goals and then people on the right and that burnt them out. The right approached online spaces like they were meeting friends to make fun of and pick on the left. The left was only reacting to things as they happened. They weren't having fun with any of it.

I'm here aren't I

Fun fact, I got banned from reddit the other day for saying something sarcastic. So I did the appeal thing, but all I said was "Fuck you, you fucking gaggle of cave brained cunts." And... they reversed the ban. So I guess, they dont even bother reading whatever shit you write in the appeal, they just look at the comment and uphold or rescind the bot ban. Pricks.

Shadowbans are illegal in the EU. They are technically legal but require the user to be notified of it, which doesn't make it a "shadowban" anymore.

Yeah, the disconnect behind the methodologies and desires allows open spaces to be filled with loud hateful idiots, it's hard to just progress as a society when one side is so motivated to be hateful in the vacuum of saner people going elsewhere. Not entirely sure what to do about that. It feels like a paradox or a catch 22, it's hard on the psyche to inhabit a space that's hostile, but moving out of it just enables loud hateful idiots to be louder, and feel they arent opposed until that space becomes a walled garden of nazis and bots circlejerking their hate.

Which i think is why we approached it wrong. I watched something with Lefty's where they just want to be right. When that doesn't happen they get so mad. Like an injustice has occurred. What I noticed with rightys are they enjoy watching the lefty attempt to change their view while fully knowing it'll never happen. It's like some schadenfreude. I think we need that. Logic and reason will come later with some people. I think it's recognize you're dealing with an immovable object and just turn it into a play thing

get totallynotlemmy ready while you are at it

Fren world?

Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.

But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!

Not true! you can get into arguments with random people about Marxism AND Linux!

I don't think they actually delete any of that stuff when you delete your account, though.

If it makes you feel better, not enough people who saw that movie recognize that the protagonists are the bad guys. So, it sort of comes out in the wash?

!movies@piefed.social

!casualconversation@piefed.social

!science@mander.xyz

We're growing slowly but at least we are growing.

This site is just way too diffuse and has too few real people actively participating. It is also missing some very basic things that would accelerate engagement. Right now, your profile doesnt tally your upvotes. This should be a pretty simple fix and would promote visibility into who the top contributors are and the perceived quality of their upvotes.

Organized events would also keep momentum going. I remember back when reddit had AMAs that were actually interesting and fun instead of thinly veiled opportunities to plug a recent project while talking to someone's PR manager.

The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage (blech), but maybe something that fills the screen by default, and improves readability? Comment sections are less easy to follow than on pre-IPO reddit. Native hoverzoom would also be nice. Is there anywhere to actually have an exchange with the people running Lemmy?

The movie doesn’t give you enough info. It’s just entertainment. All you know is Earth is being attacked by bugs and there’s sort of a desperation to beat them. The “draft” for citizenship is really the only indicator something is off about society.