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  • misterfrog@lemmy.worldM misterfrog@lemmy.world

    I do enjoy that Lemmy has been going so strong, it's been a very long while since I've heard this.

    Just wish MelbourneTrains was active over here 😞

    I've looked over the fence. Very sad people aren't posting here! And there's many posts a day there!

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    medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.world
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    Be the change you want.

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    • medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.worldM medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.world

      Be the change you want.

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      misterfrog@lemmy.world
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      I am, the 2 most recent posts in the last 7 months are me! 😞

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      • tetris11@feddit.ukT tetris11@feddit.uk

        I can never block reddit. My go-to workflow for buying any product is usually:

        1. Perplexity / Claude: "what are some good recommendations for <productX>?"
        2. Skim what it writes, mentally note that it's probably extrapolating from little data on <productX>
        3. Scroll down to the sources, click on the Reddit ones.
        4. Check that the date is somewhat reasonably in the past (+3yrs is always good)
        5. Scroll to that one single comment that provides insightful feedback

        This is why I never deleted my reddit accounts after I migrated -- I just couldn't throw away all of the hard written insightful comments I'd made there over ~15 years, and knew that an AI (and by extension future me) might find it beneficial.

        (I'm not against AI, I'm against what capitalism is doing with AI)

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        #122

        Genuinely curious, theoretically how valuable would a once and done service install of a private open source machine learning model on your local network that can do that skimming functionality be for you? A private box thats setup and just works? Is that even something people would want?

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        • mrmanager@lemmy.todayM mrmanager@lemmy.today

          Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.

          But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!

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          zink@programming.dev
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          There are great discussions here.

          The problem is that we have too few users, so most topics you'd want to discuss aren't going to have existing thriving communities to chat with you. All of Lemmy put together is dwarfed by single reddit communities. for niche topics.

          I'm not complaining, because the barriers to entry and lack of popular awareness keeps the user base here smarter and more interesting to talk to. But for the good of humanity I do think we need open tech like this to get widespread adoption, and it's going to take a long time. Reddit had almost two decades' head start.

          And looking at a timeline, at this point in Reddit's history a few years in, the most popular subs with the early adopters were politics, programming, abe science. Sounds familiar, lol.

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          • tetris11@feddit.ukT tetris11@feddit.uk

            I can never block reddit. My go-to workflow for buying any product is usually:

            1. Perplexity / Claude: "what are some good recommendations for <productX>?"
            2. Skim what it writes, mentally note that it's probably extrapolating from little data on <productX>
            3. Scroll down to the sources, click on the Reddit ones.
            4. Check that the date is somewhat reasonably in the past (+3yrs is always good)
            5. Scroll to that one single comment that provides insightful feedback

            This is why I never deleted my reddit accounts after I migrated -- I just couldn't throw away all of the hard written insightful comments I'd made there over ~15 years, and knew that an AI (and by extension future me) might find it beneficial.

            (I'm not against AI, I'm against what capitalism is doing with AI)

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            alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            There is always safe reddit or one of its instances that Libredirect can automatically, well, redirect you to

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            • S skavau@piefed.social

              Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.

              What are you on about? There's tons of atheists still on reddit now. They don't spread child porn.

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              buttnugget@lemmy.world
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              I think they might be talking about the “atheist culture” that used to exist on reddit back during the New Atheist Movement. This might seem unnecessary but maybe we should distinguish between atheism and Atheism, since that’s usually what people are objecting to.

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              • mrmanager@lemmy.todayM mrmanager@lemmy.today

                Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.

                But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!

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                buttnugget@lemmy.world
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                I agree with the criticism of the content, especially since we solved a lot of these problems on reddit years ago, but as I’ve said on here before, we need a critical mass in order to achieve the kind of platform we’re looking to replicate. If lemmy keeps growing, it might come. Acculturation might not be possible though.

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                • Z zink@programming.dev

                  There are great discussions here.

                  The problem is that we have too few users, so most topics you'd want to discuss aren't going to have existing thriving communities to chat with you. All of Lemmy put together is dwarfed by single reddit communities. for niche topics.

                  I'm not complaining, because the barriers to entry and lack of popular awareness keeps the user base here smarter and more interesting to talk to. But for the good of humanity I do think we need open tech like this to get widespread adoption, and it's going to take a long time. Reddit had almost two decades' head start.

                  And looking at a timeline, at this point in Reddit's history a few years in, the most popular subs with the early adopters were politics, programming, abe science. Sounds familiar, lol.

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                  mrmanager@lemmy.today
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                  I saw bluesky take off and get millions of users right away. Appearently they have 38 million users now.

                  I guess advertising works... 😛

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                  • Z zink@programming.dev

                    There are great discussions here.

                    The problem is that we have too few users, so most topics you'd want to discuss aren't going to have existing thriving communities to chat with you. All of Lemmy put together is dwarfed by single reddit communities. for niche topics.

                    I'm not complaining, because the barriers to entry and lack of popular awareness keeps the user base here smarter and more interesting to talk to. But for the good of humanity I do think we need open tech like this to get widespread adoption, and it's going to take a long time. Reddit had almost two decades' head start.

                    And looking at a timeline, at this point in Reddit's history a few years in, the most popular subs with the early adopters were politics, programming, abe science. Sounds familiar, lol.

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                    squaresinger@lemmy.world
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                    It's sobering to consider how tiny Lemmy is. Both the Linus Tech Tips forum and the Crackberry forum are bigger and more active than all of Lemmy together.

                    Back in the day, even something niche as the Blitzbasic forum was bigger than Lemmy is now.

                    It's probably a good thing too, since both performance and in the way moderation needs to be done on Lemmy is so inefficient that it's right now already at the point where instances are getting closed down because they can't handle the workload and cost.

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                    • B buttnugget@lemmy.world

                      I agree with the criticism of the content, especially since we solved a lot of these problems on reddit years ago, but as I’ve said on here before, we need a critical mass in order to achieve the kind of platform we’re looking to replicate. If lemmy keeps growing, it might come. Acculturation might not be possible though.

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                      squaresinger@lemmy.world
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                      But Lemmy isn't growing. In fact, it's declining: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=1000

                      (When looking at these stats, remember that the post and comment counts are all-time comments/posts that are available at that specific day on the platform. In June 2024 there were more total comments than now, and in November 2024 there were more posts than there are now.

                      And all numbers are including the NSFW instance.

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                      • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                        One problem with tankies though is that they basically are right-wingers, just on the left, i.e. they are in form if not content.

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                        And then both sides of that extremist divide drives away the 80% or so in the middle somewhere, leaving the platform empty due to the "Nazi bar effect" (you may choose to ignore the actual Nazis as you sit in your own little corner in a bar, but how can you invite your friends, especially Jewish ones, to come to such?)

                        Purity testing will continue until morale improves (i.e. short sighted thinking does not realize that certain modes of treating especially newcomers to a place will effectively kill it off, eventually leaving solely the "pure" remaining - except nobody is truly pure so realistically it will leave almost nobody).

                        There are many true leftist places here on the Threadiverse btw including slrpnk.net and dbzero. And there, I just did purity testing myself:-), although due to the Intolerance Paradox this must be done in order for any type of community to be made.

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                        • B buttnugget@lemmy.world

                          I think they might be talking about the “atheist culture” that used to exist on reddit back during the New Atheist Movement. This might seem unnecessary but maybe we should distinguish between atheism and Atheism, since that’s usually what people are objecting to.

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                          skavau@piefed.social
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                          Even "new atheism" is really not fairly put alongside child porn or racism.

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                          • misterfrog@lemmy.worldM misterfrog@lemmy.world

                            I am, the 2 most recent posts in the last 7 months are me! 😞

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                            medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.world
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                            Keep chugging along. 🙂

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                            • mrmanager@lemmy.todayM mrmanager@lemmy.today

                              I saw bluesky take off and get millions of users right away. Appearently they have 38 million users now.

                              I guess advertising works... 😛

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                              derpgon@programming.dev
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                              It is the barrier to entry - most people probably stopped on "choose a server".

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                              • S skavau@piefed.social

                                Even "new atheism" is really not fairly put alongside child porn or racism.

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                                buttnugget@lemmy.world
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                                Not the movement, the people on reddit. I think they were comparing their behavior.

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                                • B buttnugget@lemmy.world

                                  Not the movement, the people on reddit. I think they were comparing their behavior.

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                                  skavau@piefed.social
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                                  That still seems outrageous to compare a smug new atheist to someone who posts child porn

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                                  • S skavau@piefed.social

                                    That still seems outrageous to compare a smug new atheist to someone who posts child porn

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                                    buttnugget@lemmy.world
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                                    Ok so I don’t want to go to bat too much for an opinion I was mostly speculating on (since that person never clarified), but the atheist community on reddit was a lot worse than just smug pricks back then. Serious sexism, racism, defense of gay marriage but tons of homophobia, etc. This is what I assume the comment OP was talking about.

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                                    • G greenshimada@lemmy.world

                                      Not true! you can get into arguments with random people about Marxism AND Linux!

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                                      hakunawazo@lemmy.world
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                                      ...and Star Trek.

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                                      • K krooklochurm@lemmy.ca

                                        Agreed.

                                        I don't think anyone that believes different was on early Reddit.

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                                        #138

                                        I joined Reddit in like 2008, and it definitely felt similar to Lemmy, and my understanding was that even then it was already starting to noticeably change.

                                        I think the culture shift was related to the Digg exodus

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                                        • A auth@lemmy.world

                                          There is discussion but the userbase's interests arent super wide so at the moment its techy and politicsy. Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.

                                          I've recently been checking out reddit to see discussion on a few topics not covered here, MMA and beyond all reason. I'm shocked by how low quality the comments are. I can open a 900 comment thread and not see a single comment that discusses the thread topic or discusses anything.

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                                          foodandart@lemmy.zip
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                                          Honestly, that's not accidental. Reddit's a hot mess right now..

                                          Once the IPO dropped last year, the algorithm started steering users to the least productive, most rage-bait inducing content. I was on many art-related subs and within 6 months, my feed pivoted to the political feeds.. MurderedByWords, LeopardsAteMyFace and others. The AppleHelp and VintageGaming and VintageApple where I had the best, most in-depth conversations all but vanished from my home page feed.

                                          Oddly enough subs like anime_titties (which was non-US based global-only news with the sub's title used to keep the 50-cent Army from seeing it as the Great Firewall doesn't like anime_titties) also went down my feed list. Then mystery subs with really rage-inducing content like NewsHub which was lots of middle-east and Gaza related stuff appeared - and I hadn't ever visited that sub.. stuff that I han't even heard of showed up.

                                          NGL, I fell right into it. It's slick, that's for sure.

                                          Eventually the rage-bait posts got me.. I had started to get snarkier and snarkier and the mod-bots bumped me yesterday - within a minute - of making a metaphorically mean post. I spent the evening on old reddit getting at the unarchived content I'd posted and manually deleted it. Then managed to get to the delete account page and left. 14 years. Oh well.

                                          The AI they're using isn't as well trained as they think, (hence the Reddit stock tanking in the past 2 weeks) and of course Steven MIller (the real POTUS right now) is looking to go after the mainstream social media sites.

                                          It's getting a bit schizophrenic, what with the fear of the Trump Administration meddling on one hand and the algorithm on the other driving engagement by highlighting the EXACT strident content that makes it a target.

                                          Oooooffffff. Fun times ahead.

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