Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.

But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!

I can never block reddit. My go-to workflow for buying any product is usually:

1. Perplexity / Claude: "what are some good recommendations for <productX>?"
2. Skim what it writes, mentally note that it's probably extrapolating from little data on <productX>
3. Scroll down to the sources, click on the Reddit ones.
4. Check that the date is somewhat reasonably in the past (+3yrs is always good)
5. Scroll to that one single comment that provides insightful feedback

This is why I never deleted my reddit accounts after I migrated -- I just couldn't throw away all of the hard written insightful comments I'd made there over ~15 years, and knew that an AI (and by extension future me) might find it beneficial.

(I'm not against AI, I'm against what capitalism is doing with AI)

Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.

What are you on about? There's tons of atheists still on reddit now. They don't spread child porn.

Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.

But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!

There are great discussions here.

The problem is that we have too few users, so most topics you'd want to discuss aren't going to have existing thriving communities to chat with you. All of Lemmy put together is dwarfed by single reddit communities. for niche topics.

I'm not complaining, because the barriers to entry and lack of popular awareness keeps the user base here smarter and more interesting to talk to. But for the good of humanity I do think we need open tech like this to get widespread adoption, and it's going to take a long time. Reddit had almost two decades' head start.

And looking at a timeline, at this point in Reddit's history a few years in, the most popular subs with the early adopters were politics, programming, abe science. Sounds familiar, lol.

There are great discussions here.

The problem is that we have too few users, so most topics you'd want to discuss aren't going to have existing thriving communities to chat with you. All of Lemmy put together is dwarfed by single reddit communities. for niche topics.

I'm not complaining, because the barriers to entry and lack of popular awareness keeps the user base here smarter and more interesting to talk to. But for the good of humanity I do think we need open tech like this to get widespread adoption, and it's going to take a long time. Reddit had almost two decades' head start.

And looking at a timeline, at this point in Reddit's history a few years in, the most popular subs with the early adopters were politics, programming, abe science. Sounds familiar, lol.

I agree with the criticism of the content, especially since we solved a lot of these problems on reddit years ago, but as I’ve said on here before, we need a critical mass in order to achieve the kind of platform we’re looking to replicate. If lemmy keeps growing, it might come. Acculturation might not be possible though.

One problem with tankies though is that they basically are right-wingers, just on the left, i.e. they are in form if not content.

And then both sides of that extremist divide drives away the 80% or so in the middle somewhere, leaving the platform empty due to the "Nazi bar effect" (you may choose to ignore the actual Nazis as you sit in your own little corner in a bar, but how can you invite your friends, especially Jewish ones, to come to such?)

Purity testing will continue until morale improves (i.e. short sighted thinking does not realize that certain modes of treating especially newcomers to a place will effectively kill it off, eventually leaving solely the "pure" remaining - except nobody is truly pure so realistically it will leave almost nobody).

There are many true leftist places here on the Threadiverse btw including slrpnk.net and dbzero. And there, I just did purity testing myself:-), although due to the Intolerance Paradox this must be done in order for any type of community to be made.

I think they might be talking about the “atheist culture” that used to exist on reddit back during the New Atheist Movement. This might seem unnecessary but maybe we should distinguish between atheism and Atheism, since that’s usually what people are objecting to.

I am, the 2 most recent posts in the last 7 months are me!

I saw bluesky take off and get millions of users right away. Appearently they have 38 million users now.

I guess advertising works...

Even "new atheism" is really not fairly put alongside child porn or racism.

Not the movement, the people on reddit. I think they were comparing their behavior.

That still seems outrageous to compare a smug new atheist to someone who posts child porn

Not true! you can get into arguments with random people about Marxism AND Linux!

Agreed.

I don't think anyone that believes different was on early Reddit.

There is discussion but the userbase's interests arent super wide so at the moment its techy and politicsy. Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.

I've recently been checking out reddit to see discussion on a few topics not covered here, MMA and beyond all reason. I'm shocked by how low quality the comments are. I can open a 900 comment thread and not see a single comment that discusses the thread topic or discusses anything.

It is the barrier to entry - most people probably stopped on "choose a server".

One problem with tankies though is that they basically are right-wingers, just on the left, i.e. they are in form if not content.

And then both sides of that extremist divide drives away the 80% or so in the middle somewhere, leaving the platform empty due to the "Nazi bar effect" (you may choose to ignore the actual Nazis as you sit in your own little corner in a bar, but how can you invite your friends, especially Jewish ones, to come to such?)

Purity testing will continue until morale improves (i.e. short sighted thinking does not realize that certain modes of treating especially newcomers to a place will effectively kill it off, eventually leaving solely the "pure" remaining - except nobody is truly pure so realistically it will leave almost nobody).

There are many true leftist places here on the Threadiverse btw including slrpnk.net and dbzero. And there, I just did purity testing myself:-), although due to the Intolerance Paradox this must be done in order for any type of community to be made.

Genuinely curious, theoretically how valuable would a once and done service install of a private open source machine learning model on your local network that can do that skimming functionality be for you? A private box thats setup and just works? Is that even something people would want?