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  • F freemindfreeass@lemmy.world

    Honestly I like the conversations here, it reminds me a lot of the old internet.

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    horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de
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    FLAMEWAR

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    • F foodandart@lemmy.zip

      Honestly, that's not accidental. Reddit's a hot mess right now..

      Once the IPO dropped last year, the algorithm started steering users to the least productive, most rage-bait inducing content. I was on many art-related subs and within 6 months, my feed pivoted to the political feeds.. MurderedByWords, LeopardsAteMyFace and others. The AppleHelp and VintageGaming and VintageApple where I had the best, most in-depth conversations all but vanished from my home page feed.

      Oddly enough subs like anime_titties (which was non-US based global-only news with the sub's title used to keep the 50-cent Army from seeing it as the Great Firewall doesn't like anime_titties) also went down my feed list. Then mystery subs with really rage-inducing content like NewsHub which was lots of middle-east and Gaza related stuff appeared - and I hadn't ever visited that sub.. stuff that I han't even heard of showed up.

      NGL, I fell right into it. It's slick, that's for sure.

      Eventually the rage-bait posts got me.. I had started to get snarkier and snarkier and the mod-bots bumped me yesterday - within a minute - of making a metaphorically mean post. I spent the evening on old reddit getting at the unarchived content I'd posted and manually deleted it. Then managed to get to the delete account page and left. 14 years. Oh well.

      The AI they're using isn't as well trained as they think, (hence the Reddit stock tanking in the past 2 weeks) and of course Steven MIller (the real POTUS right now) is looking to go after the mainstream social media sites.

      It's getting a bit schizophrenic, what with the fear of the Trump Administration meddling on one hand and the algorithm on the other driving engagement by highlighting the EXACT strident content that makes it a target.

      Oooooffffff. Fun times ahead.

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      ultranaut@lemmy.world
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      Oddly enough subs like anime_titties (which was non-US based global-only news with the sub’s title used to keep the 50-cent Army from seeing it as the Great Firewall doesn’t like anime_titties) also went down my feed list.

      This is actually not quite correct. It may be a side effect but originally that sub was created because moderation sucked in a different global news sub. If I remember correctly that sub started getting flooded with lewd anime so the new sub was created for global news but named ironically in the tradition of r\marijuanaenthusiasts and r\trees

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      • H horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de

        FLAMEWAR

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        freemindfreeass@lemmy.world
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        WAHHHGARBL

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        • B beejboytyson@lemmy.world

          Welcome to 2025 where the platform that promotes nazi rhetoric are the victims.

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          dasus@lemmy.world
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          Name a platform that doesn't have people promoting nazi rhetoric

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          • J jandrodelsol@lemmy.world

            that's what .ml stands for, right?

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            greenshimada@lemmy.world
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            100% accurate

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            • D dragontypewyvern@midwest.social

              There's no arguments about that, other than the murder

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              greenshimada@lemmy.world
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              TUVIX WAS AN ABOMINATION!

              Plus, my head cannon is that Severance is based entirely on the Tuvix incident.

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              • mrmanager@lemmy.todayM mrmanager@lemmy.today

                Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.

                But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!

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                bilbobargains@lemmy.world
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                #168

                What sort of discussion are you seeking? I'm spending most of my time in the comments, droppin truth bombs on dey heads.

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                • R rumba@lemmy.zip

                  There's no lack of people willing to have discourse. No one is asking the questions.

                  People go to Reddit with hard questions (an other things) they want to crowdsource

                  People don't come to Lemmy with it, but other than not knowing which tech forum to ask it in, there's no reason they can't.

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                  happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml
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                  plus niche populated community for every possible topic

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                  • medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.worldM medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.world

                    Keep chugging along. 🙂

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                    misterfrog@lemmy.world
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                    Reckon if I subtly cross-post to r/MelbourneTrains I'll get banned on Reddit haha

                    One way to find out 😉

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                    • mrmanager@lemmy.todayM mrmanager@lemmy.today

                      Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.

                      But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!

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                      ekzepp@lemmy.world
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                      #171

                      !showerthoughts@lemmy.world

                      !asklemmy@lemmy.world

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                      • H hakunawazo@lemmy.world

                        ...and Star Trek.

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                        ekzepp@lemmy.world
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                        #172

                        Don't forget Lotr.

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                        • H happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml

                          plus niche populated community for every possible topic

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                          rumba@lemmy.zip
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                          very true, but slowly getting negated by deleted posts and militant moderation, maybe we'll hit a middleground eventually

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                          • dasus@lemmy.worldD dasus@lemmy.world

                            Name a platform that doesn't have people promoting nazi rhetoric

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                            chakravanti@monero.town
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                            Disturbed

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                            • S squaresinger@lemmy.world

                              But Lemmy isn't growing. In fact, it's declining: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=1000

                              (When looking at these stats, remember that the post and comment counts are all-time comments/posts that are available at that specific day on the platform. In June 2024 there were more total comments than now, and in November 2024 there were more posts than there are now.

                              And all numbers are including the NSFW instance.

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                              skavau@piefed.social
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                              Note, it's shrinking a little less when you account for Piefed and Mbin into the overall.

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                              • S skavau@piefed.social

                                https://piefed.social/communities

                                Piefed search is your answer. You can filter by activity. It also has feeds too that are topic themed.

                                I'd actually argue its way easier now to start new communities on the Fediverse than Reddit, for a variety of reasons.

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                                chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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                                That kinda highlights the problem. Search "scuba". There are 4 separate communities:

                                There are 39 total posts between them, but the one tied with the most posts has zero active users. The one with the most comments ranks 3rd in posts and only has one active user. The one with the most active user only has 2 comments according to the search.

                                If I search the same term on sync while signed into .world, I get different communities and very different user counts for those that are in both searches:

                                None of these communities are really active. But between them they would have had have the user base to get it going. Finding a community and getting the critical mass needed for it to thrive is made much harder with this amount of fragmentation.

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                                • C chiliedogg@lemmy.world

                                  That kinda highlights the problem. Search "scuba". There are 4 separate communities:

                                  There are 39 total posts between them, but the one tied with the most posts has zero active users. The one with the most comments ranks 3rd in posts and only has one active user. The one with the most active user only has 2 comments according to the search.

                                  If I search the same term on sync while signed into .world, I get different communities and very different user counts for those that are in both searches:

                                  None of these communities are really active. But between them they would have had have the user base to get it going. Finding a community and getting the critical mass needed for it to thrive is made much harder with this amount of fragmentation.

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                                  skavau@piefed.social
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                                  Oh I agree, that's why some users push for consolidation of communities into one single community. I'm just noting that abandoned communities on the fediverse are better presented on Piefed as if there is an active community in the topic you're looking for, it will be obviously visible ahead of all the others.

                                  As for reddit, there's not really much left to make on Reddit anymore. Almost every name is taken and sat on by moderators - and it's pretty hard to meaningfully advertise any new community.

                                  Not that I think Scuba Diving has enough base users on the Fediverse to begin with at this point. Most of those users subscribed are likely abandoned accounts.

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                                    Oh I agree, that's why some users push for consolidation of communities into one single community. I'm just noting that abandoned communities on the fediverse are better presented on Piefed as if there is an active community in the topic you're looking for, it will be obviously visible ahead of all the others.

                                    As for reddit, there's not really much left to make on Reddit anymore. Almost every name is taken and sat on by moderators - and it's pretty hard to meaningfully advertise any new community.

                                    Not that I think Scuba Diving has enough base users on the Fediverse to begin with at this point. Most of those users subscribed are likely abandoned accounts.

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                                    chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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                                    It's the reddit community I most consistently miss. The community there is huge and very active, as are spinoff subs like underwater photography.

                                    But I decided to leave reddit in 2023 with the API changes, and I've resisted going back. I like Lemmy, but I feel like I just have to keep my feed set to all, whereas on reddit I had a highly curated list of subs.

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                                    • F frustrated@lemmy.world

                                      Maybe I dont actually know what a tankie is. What is commonly understood to be a tankie here on this platform? I thought it was specifically the subset of ML who thought that stalin was right to send in the tanks? Am I missing something?

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                                      openstars@piefed.social
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                                      A tankie is generally considered someone so immersed deeply into their echo chamber of alternative facts that they can deny not merely the morality or the consequences but the actual and literal validity of occurrence of events such as the Holocaust or the Tiananmen Square Massacre (the tanks were there but killed nobody on that day, etc.). They tend to be exceedingly pro-authoritarian, even while claiming to be "communist" or "leftist", but redefining those terms to fit their particular worldview. So e.g. Ukraine invaded Russia rather than the other way around and so on. A hallmark of a tankie space is that nothing bad is ever allowed to be spoken about Russia, China, or North Korea.

                                      I suppose claiming that Stalin had the right to kill people is a technically accurate form of tankie by the standard dictionary definition of that term, but that is fairly tame compared to what goes on across the Threadiverse, so much so that such a person would barely qualify unless they acted to prevent anyone else from holding an opposing viewpoint. Also, while some instances are legit tankies (namely Lemmygrad.ml and Lemmy.ml), troll instances such as hexbear.net only appear at first to be anything other than argumentative echo chambers, see e.g. Chapotraphouse@hexbear.net (defederated from on both of our instances, bc of the aforementioned trolling

                                      I could link you so many posts to explain further - such as this classic Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem demonstrating how someone can get banned from all communities (in other cases, even those they've never so much as heard of) on Lemmy.ml at once - but also there's an entire community dedicated to this topic at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works. If you are interested I highly recommend checking it out. It is perhaps the top issue across all of the Threadiverse, after complaining about Reddit of course:-).

                                      Blocking hexbear.net and Lemmygrad.ml from my feed (when I was on an instance that had not defederated from them yet) improved my experience on the Threadiverse by 99%, and blocking lemmy.ml by a further 99%. It might be the echo chamber effect but whatever it is, the most trollish comments tend to come from those places. Note that you on Lemmy cannot do a true block of an instance - like so many other features that is something that PieFed and very few third party apps offers but Lemmy and most apps lack - but even so it might help a little.

                                      Slrpnk.net and lemmy.dbzer0.com are widely considered actual leftist but not tankie instances, if you need a comparison.

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                                      • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                                        Like I get the meme, but maybe rethink it? It’s also giving

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                                        jabjoe@feddit.uk
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                                        Star Ship Troopers is basically American Fascists In Space. The movie is tongue in cheek. (Though in the book, the author is quite serious).

                                        So scenes from the movie are going to give a Nazi vibe, but isn't about supporting Nazis.

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                                        • C chiliedogg@lemmy.world

                                          The thing is it's super hard to start a niche community due to a fundamental issue with federation. Which instance do you start the community in, and how do people find it?

                                          With reddit you just needed /r/[obscurehobby]. In lemmy you need to check all the instances, and you may find a different versions of the community, but all of them are dead with like 2 posts from 8 months ago because they never got the critical mass needed to catch on because the community was split.

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                                          mithranarkanere@lemmy.world
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                                          Reddit also has the problem that if someone makes a community and starts moderating like a dinghole, it can be hard to get people to join one with better moderation.

                                          With federation you can have the same name multiple times, so when people search "[hobby]" they can see all of them.

                                          Then you could have a merged view of all the [hobby] from different sources, and if a mod who arbitrarily decides to interpret the rules unfairly or err on the side of permanent bans without discussion, warnings, or recourse, you can at least still interact with other [hobby].

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