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  • M moody@lemmings.world

    My ass plays sound too, but nobody want to pay to hear it.

    They may as well just sell them without speakers at all. I don't need specifixally high quality sound, just not-garbage sound.

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    brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    #67

    Are you willing to pay through the nose?

    Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel is a hard engineering problem. Read: expensive.

    There are some crazy schemes that have been tried, like embedding a piezioelectric layer on top of the display, but the reality is no one wants to pay a grand or two for that when they could just plug in a soundbar. What TV makers should really do is bundle soundbars with the TV in a combo pack, which I think they already (sometimes) do.

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      cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Just run the audio through a dynamic range compressor. Then everything will be just as loud as the commercials.

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        ziglin@lemmy.world
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        Sometimes there's also a random high pitched buzz in the background that's louder than anything else for one whole scene. How heard would it be to just remove that frequency range or maybe see that it is louder than every other scene?

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          pyre@lemmy.world
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          #High Dynamic Range™

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          • M moody@lemmings.world

            My ass plays sound too, but nobody want to pay to hear it.

            They may as well just sell them without speakers at all. I don't need specifixally high quality sound, just not-garbage sound.

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            scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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            Sounds like you need a simple soundbar then

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              etterra@discuss.online
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              Subtitles on, dumbass.

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              • E etterra@discuss.online

                Subtitles on, dumbass.

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                lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works
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                Some of us can't use subtitles. I want to actually watch the cinematography and the actors. If text is on-screen I can't not read it

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                • E epicstove@lemmy.ca

                  Because a video game is a program that can change it's behavior as it's running.

                  A video is a recording. It's already been recorded.

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                  korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                  You can record multiple channels, you already have left and right recorded separately. Other channels could exist for different things, it would just need a standard to follow to be useful

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                  • E etterra@discuss.online

                    Subtitles on, dumbass.

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                    canadiancarl@sh.itjust.works
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                    Blind people don't exist.

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                    • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneI itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                      But you better enjoy our voice actors, we have about 3!

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                      ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf
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                      Yippykayay, Schweinebacke

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                      • L lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works

                        Some of us can't use subtitles. I want to actually watch the cinematography and the actors. If text is on-screen I can't not read it

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                        psythik@lemm.ee
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                        Well since you're obviously into film, you should invest in a proper Dolby Atmos/DTS:X surround setup to give you options. You can either turn up the center channel, put it in "dialog" mode, or enable dynamic range compression (night mode).

                        Regardless, tou're not getting the full experience if you don't have a surround sound setup. Ideally you should buy a receiver and hand pick your component speakers, but even a sound bar is better than TV speakers, so long as it's from a well-known brand and has up firing drivers in both the front and rear. If the third number in the number of speakers is 4 or higher (ex 5.1.4), then you're good to go.

                        This applies to everybody reading this, not just lagoon8622. All your dialog problems are being caused by your TV speakers.

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                        • O olgratin_magmatoe@slrpnk.net

                          Right now TNG. I'm re-watching it with my fiancé. The sound of the ship whooshing past is deafening.

                          It's been a minute since I've seen the rest of the shows. So I don't remember how good their mixing is.

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                          ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf
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                          Lol, I was actually thinking of using TNG as a positive example! Patrick Stewart is trained in Shakespearean drama and enunciates as such. Very pleasant to listen to.

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                          • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                            Are you willing to pay through the nose?

                            Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel is a hard engineering problem. Read: expensive.

                            There are some crazy schemes that have been tried, like embedding a piezioelectric layer on top of the display, but the reality is no one wants to pay a grand or two for that when they could just plug in a soundbar. What TV makers should really do is bundle soundbars with the TV in a combo pack, which I think they already (sometimes) do.

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                            moody@lemmings.world
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                            Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel

                            That's part of the problem, isn't it? They're trying to make TVs into an art piece instead of a functional appliance.

                            We were ok with fatass CRT sets when that's all that was available. When LCD became standard, most people were happy about that. Now that bezel-less TVs are a thing, apparently we can no longer go back to anything but a 65" iPad.

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                            • M moody@lemmings.world

                              I don't need high-powered, audiophile-grade surround speakers. Just maybe something a little better than a landline phone. There's a pretty wide spectrum, and TVs come with shit tier audio. They don't have to, but they do.

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                              soggy@lemmy.world
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                              That's what they sell sound bars for. They even have brackets to hand the sound bar from your tv or wall mount. Putting that in every tv adds a hundred bucks for hardware not everyone will use.

                              "One size fits all" sucks, it's better to offer a modular system that people can adapt to their needs and situation. It requires a tiny bit of extra effort but plenty of retailers will do the thinking for you too if you pay them.

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                              • S soggy@lemmy.world

                                That's what they sell sound bars for. They even have brackets to hand the sound bar from your tv or wall mount. Putting that in every tv adds a hundred bucks for hardware not everyone will use.

                                "One size fits all" sucks, it's better to offer a modular system that people can adapt to their needs and situation. It requires a tiny bit of extra effort but plenty of retailers will do the thinking for you too if you pay them.

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                                moody@lemmings.world
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                                It doesn't need to be one size fits all though. Currently one size fits few, when a few extra bucks could make it one size fits most.

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                                • M moody@lemmings.world

                                  It doesn't need to be one size fits all though. Currently one size fits few, when a few extra bucks could make it one size fits most.

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                                  soggy@lemmy.world
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                                  Currently it's a basic starting point that they fully expect users to augment with their sound solution of choice. This is fine. I don't want to pay more for my next television because you're too lazy to figure out what the sockets on the back are for.

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                                  • Z ziglin@lemmy.world

                                    Sometimes there's also a random high pitched buzz in the background that's louder than anything else for one whole scene. How heard would it be to just remove that frequency range or maybe see that it is louder than every other scene?

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                                    jimmycakes@lemmy.world
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                                    Solve guy went to music school instead of law to add that in there. He's keeping it in there if it's the last thing he does

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                                      Well since you're obviously into film, you should invest in a proper Dolby Atmos/DTS:X surround setup to give you options. You can either turn up the center channel, put it in "dialog" mode, or enable dynamic range compression (night mode).

                                      Regardless, tou're not getting the full experience if you don't have a surround sound setup. Ideally you should buy a receiver and hand pick your component speakers, but even a sound bar is better than TV speakers, so long as it's from a well-known brand and has up firing drivers in both the front and rear. If the third number in the number of speakers is 4 or higher (ex 5.1.4), then you're good to go.

                                      This applies to everybody reading this, not just lagoon8622. All your dialog problems are being caused by your TV speakers.

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                                      squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com
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                                      I shouldn't have to invest hundreds of dollars into a whole separate sound system just because the sound designers of a movie can't properly balance to audio for stereo sound, the single most common audio set up in the entire world.

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                                        languageiscool@lemmy.world
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                                        This is perfect lol. Now we need one for absurdly loud motorcycles ruining an evening’s cool.

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                                        • M moody@lemmings.world

                                          Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel

                                          That's part of the problem, isn't it? They're trying to make TVs into an art piece instead of a functional appliance.

                                          We were ok with fatass CRT sets when that's all that was available. When LCD became standard, most people were happy about that. Now that bezel-less TVs are a thing, apparently we can no longer go back to anything but a 65" iPad.

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                                          brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                                          bezel-less

                                          This is fine with OLEDs and future(?) emissive displays TBH. They don't need a thick bezel for much of anything, and thinning them out saves on materials/shipping weight up to a point.

                                          Edge-lit LCDs were kind of an insane fad, but... outside low-end PC monitors, that's mostly over.

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